Why we cannot rely on charity to do disaster relief.

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  1. Tererune

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    So some people have wondered why the US needs so much money for FEMA and why we should pay taxes to such things. According to them Americans are very generous in giving to charities like the church who have shelter and soup kitchens in almost every community in the US.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/6wo6y4/journalist_goes_to_joel_olsteens_church_to_prove/

    At the link is a video which seems to show the Osteen church is above water even if the basement might be flooded and is huge and could be used to set up shelter and food distribution. It wasn't planned for such things,but some state buildings were made to be shelters in case of flooding.

    We cannot rely on charity to coordinate and be our disaster relief. We need a well funded and run FEMA in order to provide relief for any of us in time of need. We see a church that could use worldwide donations and organisation to assist in relief in it's home city and that is not even a thought. We can make sure our government sets up and prepares for disasters and fund disaster relief which helps us all.

    By paying taxes and working at it now for the future that is how we buy the well supported bootstraps we will lift our own communities up with when the water gets too high.
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    elitirate ķnut Eat Shit And Die

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    Heres 1x pitty post/bump thread.
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  3. Dayton Kitchens

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    Story has already been debunked dude.
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  4. Ancalagon

    Ancalagon Scalawag Administrator Formerly Important

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    No, actually the story has been confirmed. However due to the public shaming Joel Osteen has changed his mind and decided he will actually provide help instead of just prayers.
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  5. Dayton Kitchens

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    IIRC it has been debunked on this very forum.
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  6. Ancalagon

    Ancalagon Scalawag Administrator Formerly Important

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    You recall incorrectly.
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  7. Tererune

    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    Did you look at the video because it clearly shows nothing happening at the church despite it not being flooded. Please do link the contrary evidence.

    At any rate it does not change my point that even if they wanted to they are not prepared to coordinate such a massive rescue and recovery effort with others, nor can they do it all themselves. However the government can.

    Do be a dear and go play with your new friend marmadukeugly while the people with more than a handful of neurons talk. This conversation obviously is above the pay grade of an Arkansas assistant gym coach.
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    Mattress Mack seems like a good guy.
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    Dayton Kitchens Banned

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    I've never been a gym coach. Not even certified to teach gym anyway. I do teach science, social studies, English and math.
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    This story has been debunked. There was flooding on the grounds of the church.
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    Dinner 2012 & 2014 Master Prognosticator

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    In the car park and only one small portion of one corner of a giant lot with multilevel parking structures. Not in the building itself. The huckster has been shamed into opening his doors to those in need.

    The fraudster enriches himself so that he has a $10.5 million mansion (in Texas so it would be many times that in a nice state) but wouldn't actually help the needy.
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    I'm not much of a fan of megachurches and big name preachers myself.

    But how has he committed fraud?
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    Atleast Joel Osteen was shamed into opening his mega church doors to the victims of the hurricane.
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    But your lack of qualifications doesn't stop you from teaching those subjects.
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  17. Dayton Kitchens

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    I'm well qualified. I even have HQT (Highly Qualified Teacher) status. The only reason you are saying otherwise is because of your disagreements with my political beliefs.
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    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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    No, I'm saying that based on your poor grasp on each of those subjects.
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  19. Dayton Kitchens

    Dayton Kitchens Banned

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    Strictly your opinion.

    Which is based solely on your opinions about what I've posted on this board.
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    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    True, but you have posted some truly ignorant and wrong things here. So much you have a fan made thread of your greatest hits. You have cultivated your reputation as a dunce about as well as anyone can. Don't blame others for believing it when you have given no evidence you are any brighter than your online persona.
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    Once again. All opinion with no basis in fact.

    And you consider some idiot making a thread to troll me to be "evidence"??
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    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    Yes yes, we know you are a moron. No need to keep proving it.
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    Ancalagon Scalawag Administrator Formerly Important

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    Actually no, based on the Praxis scores you posted which showed that while you were able to memorize the information needed for the test you had almost no understanding of it. IIRC you had the lowest possible analysis score.
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  24. Dayton Kitchens

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    Misleading.

    I would take your criticism seriously if you had any idea what the analytical part of the Praxis exam in this case involved.

    Post what it involves (in detail) and if you're close I'll tell you.

    And no, I didn't have the lowest possible analysis score.
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  25. Dayton Kitchens

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    Once again, you use a troll thread (which shouldn't be allowed to even remain open) as evidence?
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  26. Tererune

    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    That is where you are wrong like always. I am not using one thread. I am using you as a shining example of your idiocy. The thread is only a convenient compilation which would save time wading through the huge mass of dumbfuck which any person could easily do by simply looking at your profile. Any way you do it you come to the same conclusion.
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    You can say what you want about @Dayton3, but he's an independent thinker and that's rare. I don't agree with with many of his opinions, but I respect them all because he freely provides support for his conclusions. He's also shown that he's willing to change his opinion as circumstances change: that's rare too. I can pretty much guarantee you he'd test significantly higher than you in any measure of IQ.

    TL;DR You embarrass yourself. You're in no position to call anyone names until you learn to check your emotional responses and support your ideas with logic.
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  28. Tererune

    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    Yes, bring Dayton closer to you. Absolutely nothing terrible will happen as idiots.....I mean fine people like you interact.
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  29. Fisherman's Worf

    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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    Just gonna leave this gem right here...

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  30. Tuttle

    Tuttle Listen kid, we're all in it together.

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    ^ Ooh, Dayton, it appears you've met your match.
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