Fire chief directs racial slur at Steelers coach over anthem protest

I don't do the twitter/tweet thing so I can't really relate to how significant twitter is.

I don't use it much either, but when the POTUS uses it as his main form of address to the world, I at least don't dismiss it as insignificant.

Case in point: After Tillerson said yesterday he's urging both sides to calm down in the North Korea situation, Trump just tweeted "Tillerson's wasting his time trying to talk to them. Save your energy Rex, we'll do what needs to be done!".

Fucker has literally started diplomatic incidents over it but yeah, you don't use it so who cares?

Its a direct line from his toilet seat to the world. And since he is the president of the USA then every news agency in the world is going to pick it up. Every target he lines up be it North Korea, an NFL quarterback, a Hollywood moviestar or a broadcaster who has caught his eyer is going to know what he has said.

The worrying part is that because he hooks in from his phone, there are no safeguards and filters. Spicer said as much last week. Every brain fart this clown has is instantly projected across the globe. Its dangerous enough for Joe Public, nevermind the US president.

What's controversial about asking the police not to shoot unarmed black people or kids playing with toy guns 2 seconds from arriving on scene?

so the Trump tweets are gospel now? The tweets are part of the SOP when it comes to decision making and setting policy? The fucking train jumps the tracks because the entire US political machine is held together by Trump tweets? Is half of Washington DC "triggered" by a Trump tweet? Damn, how did we ever function without them?

Tyrion tweets would be imagine him tweeting about hookers and blow jobs.

Have you not been paying attention? Every day Trump tweets and every day people react to the tweets. He can't stop tweeting and people can't stop reacting to the tweets. 80% of the threads here are about Trump and something he's said.

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/06/politics/trump-tweets-official-statements/index.html

You might want to actually read the news like, sometimes, ffs.

yes, those were two high profile tragic mistakes committed by the police, nobody denies that. That said this happens what, several times a day out of thousands of police-citizen encounters? Several times a week? No....so.....several times a month? Hmmm......or is once in a blue moon, just like "easily startled" Somali immigrant cops shooting an Australian woman in Minnesota when she slaps her hand down on a car.

I already laid out my strategy about this issue in several previous threads: only hire black cops, and if they can't fill the police department with enough black cops, lower the recruiting standard. No high school diploma, criminal record, no big deal - come one, come all.
But first, disarm the white cops. There you go herbalist, fucking ice cream and puppy dogs out on the streets after we do that. Black-on-black crime will be nonexistent (no oppression to keep them upset, hopeless & desperate) and white cops shooting blacks will end instantly. Sometimes the simplest solutions are right in front of us!

so tweets = official statement = it's a done deal with tangible effects? Damn that is a pretty streamlined system!

You joke, but IMO the first step to fixing the problem IS to have a far greater # of black cops in mixed and predominently-black areas. Partner them up with white cops. I'll bet the # of questionable shootings/incidents goes way down, all other things being equal.

Of course, recruitment is likely an issue. And part of that falls back on the AA community...the "snitches get stitches" mentality has got to go!

What if the black cop hates black people?

If the top man is busy blasting out bullshit that is at odds with gov policy then he's gone rogue and you have a very big problem.

Look, we all get it. You voted for the guy and you can't allow yourself to admit you got conned. Thats fair enough.

What you should be able to do is take partisanship out of it, look objectivley and realise that the job is far too big for him.

The Richmond County Sheriff (black himself) here in Augusta Ga is beating the bushes trying to get more black cops. The city is 50+ percent black, so that would stand to reason. He just can't get enough qualified applicants! Many fail the educational requirements, criminal records check, drug test, aptitude test, etc.etc. So many applicants (white & black) fail the weed smoking part (or if they don't piss hot at the time, don't want a job where they are not allowed to smoke it in the future) it takes a big chunk right there. I think they already waived the body fat percentage and the fitness standards are laughably easy (20 push ups and so forth) or don't enforce it like most cities to reflect the fat/fitness level of US citizens across the board. Obviously if we make the cops look like the army with ultra short hair and much more muscle than fat, then people will complain about the "militarization" of the police force.
I sure wouldn't want the Sheriff's job!

and Hillary would have been a better choice? Trump is far from "going rogue" - that's why we have checks & balances.
I don't agree with everything he does, I didn't agree with everything any president has done in the past. But the Trump hate is some entertaining shit, that I will admit. The left is entertaining in general, but throw Trump in as a target and they take their hysteria to ELEVEN and I love it.

Oldfella tweets would be better. Tweeting he is watching Dexter and game of thrones with Jeff Sessions and Obama.

The police do, as do the prosecutors who are supposed to hold them accountable for these negligent if not malicious mistakes. That's the entire reason for the protests, lack of accountability and the denial of any responsibility by the police when their actions result in the deaths of innocent civilians.

Discrimination and prejudice exists in law enforcement and the justice system according to the statistics and investigations done by both the Justice Dept., the FBI, and a first hand account from a former member of law enforcement who posts on this very board and it's flippant and sarcastic "solutions" such as these that serve to show your complete disregard for a large, disenfranchised segment of the population. You and I both know it's because you're a unbelievable racist. Of course you're to much of a coward to ever admit it.

Of course racists like to point to black on black crime as if this excuses the actions of bigoted or poorly trained officers. Funny how white on white crime is never used to dismiss Trump supporters when they wail about crimes committed by illegal aliens. The issue with that however, as I've pointed out time and again is that half the country doesn't tell the other half to sit down and shut up and respect the flag when one sides complains about it. Everyone agrees that black criminals who commit crimes against black victims or white criminals who victimize whites or criminals of any hue should be arrested and prosecuted, but a good portion of you don't care how the police treat black citizens.

wow you generalize a lot herbalist! I do care about how the police treat citizens, period. But not being a cop ( I tried back in the day, but I got cut during tryouts because I didn't have a college degree - yes it was that competitive) I can't do anything about it. If I were a cop and did indeed treat all people equally I might even be pissed that I was being judged by people who I never had an encounter with.

I thought I've been quite specific in calling you out as a racist.

If you can imagine how angry a cop might be at being unfairly judged by the actions of your worst peers just imagine how angry you might be if your 12 yr old son was shot at the park playing with a toy gun. Also the cops who feel that way need to grow the fuck up because no one has said all cops are bad, just that the ones who shoot unarmed citizens for no reason should be prosecuted for negligence or murder. I know in my profession when customers complain about my lazy co-workers I don't get mad at the customers.

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There is another dimension which you are completely ignoring. The fact that many black activists can and do spread lies to try to incite violence. The "he had his hands in the air", "it was a book not a gun", "he didn't do nuff'n before that pig shot him", or "he got shot for carrying skittles" type nonsense. We see it all the time, it is usually completely factually untrue, and yet the BLM activists are the worst at spreading these untruths because it fits their propaganda narrative about supposed victimhood. In all but an exceptionally tiny percent of cases the use of force was completely justified. Don't attack a cop, don't pull a gun on a cop, don't try to flee the scene like a guilty party and your odds of getting shot just dropped by one to two orders of magnitude.

That is why a lot of people simply do not trust or believe what these activists say nor do they even believe there is much truth to the claims. I myself believe there is some, limited, truth to the claims and that therefore a review is in order to see if the system can be improved. That said, most of the time there is no problem or fault in the system but instead the problem lies with the choices criminals make for themselves (white, black, or otherwise).

That said as long as black criminality remains a huge problem (and it is, just look at how black males make up 6.5% of the population yet commit almost half of all murders nationwide) then they are going to keep having run ins with law enforcement and some of those will not go well. Having the "cops are just pigs, kill a pig" attitude does not help their cause because it just makes the cops, rightly, believe interactions with black males are more dangerous and risky so they will be extra on their guard. I feel bad for the regular black guy who is not involved in anything illegal because he will inevitably run into a jaded cop who has an us vs them attitude and that is unfair to that guy.

It is a tough pickle and almost a chicken or egg type situation which will be hard to solve. The reality is virtually all police shootings are in fact justified shootings, use of force by police is way down not up as the lying activists claim, and most of them are just trying to ignore or excuse criminal behavior as long as the criminal is black. So there is two sides to this and I do not see any real solutions.

Don't you think it's mighty strange that black folks have such a high rate of incarceration? If you don't think being black makes one inherently more likely to commit crime then why are these stats true? Could it be that they are targeted by police? Do you think all the law-abiding blacks that are scared of cops are just being paranoid? Could it be that the actual link to criminal behavior is POVERTY and the real question should be how are so many black people trapped in the cycle of poverty and what can be done?

No, it just reflects the much higher rate of criminality in the black community. It is almost certainly cultural as immigrant blacks, at least for the first generation or two before they end up adopting black American attitudes, simply don't have this problem.

As I said it is almost certainly a cultural attitude towards crime being acceptable or even glamerous. It is a cultural problem ebdemic to American Black Culture not to blacks as a whole as foreign born black immigrants don't usually have the thug life culture. They also usually come from intact families where a father knocking a woman up and then ditching her is considered shameful and unacceptable. Thus their children grow up with their father in the hone as a good male role model.

Of course, police are going to target high crime areas where dead bodies keep dropping. Remember how black males make up 6.5% of the population yet commit half of the murders in the entire country. No, it really is not a problem with poverty as I have been to many poor tgird world countries where people do not act like this. The other thing is you can see people who make vast fortunes yet still wind up dead or imprison because they are still trying to live the thug life. As Don King famously said "You can take the man out of the ghetto but you can't take the ghetto out of the man."

The only real long term sokution is a complete change in American Black culture but good luck with that. We still have activists claiming, lazily and without any sound reasoning, that these criminals who get shot are blameless and it is everyone else's fault.

Jesus Christ, you love to reach up to the clouds then pull nothing but shit out of your own ass. You are one of those dumb asses that routinely believes the seven degrees of Kevin Bacon nonsense, aren't you?

No, don't stop. I want to see where this goes.

And I'm just going to drop this here because it's easier than windmilling arguments with certain idiots.

I realize that this won't change the specific idiot's mind, but maybe it'll get other folks thinking about the subject.

Scab won't heal if you keep picking at it. Perpetuating (and exacerbating) an "us vs them" mentality is counter-productive, and is movement backwards.

Since MLKs 'I have a dream' the death of blacks by cops in the US has decreased 70%.

I left NY, but the data there are what they are/were: 1971 cop shootings 314 (93 fatal), down in 2015 to 23 (8 fatal).

And it's not just incidental that Colin K and 'the kneelers' has never made an argument that underlies their protest, so we don't even really know what they think is behind their effortless, and symbolic but ultimately empty gesture. I only oppose the judgement behind the choice of 'time and place' and silence from them on any real discussion of their supposed grievance. Dipshits.

Like I said, you reach into your ass and pull shit out. Complete nonsense fantasy crap.