Jefferson Davis school to be renamed after Obama

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  1. Shirogayne

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  2. Fisherman's Worf

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    Ah yes, the "one little drink isn't gonna hurt" argument.
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  3. Dinner

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    I am saying removing historical markers is completely, utterly, totally retarded. What moron snowflakes consider offensive or not doesn't even enter the equation nor should it.
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  5. Herbalist

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    Being a snowflake would be gettting your panties in a twist over something that doesn't affect you or people you care about in anyway. Being black and having to attend a highschool named after someone who fought a war to keep you and your people enslaved is certainly worthy of offense. You on the other hand don't attend this school or work at this school and are thus completely unaffected by the renaming of this school in any way, yet you sure are crying like a little bitch about it. If anyone is being a snowflake it's you bitch boy.
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    Well technically that's because he was born in the wrong era. Let Wilson live during the Civil War era and I'd bet he'd have no problem with slavery and probably would have fought for the Confederacy.

    The man was a huge racist.
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    Presidents,... what a daft thing to name schools after...
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    Why?
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    Politicians are divisive, and almost universally not very inspirational.
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    Really? Seattle, a city named after a native chieftain, in a county originally named after a US Vice President in a state named after a US President has High Schools named Garfield, Cleveland and Roosevelt which aren't considered any more or less divisive than Chief Sealth, Franklin or Nathan Hale.
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    Regular politicians, I would agree with you. However, presidents (especially certain presidents like Washington, Lincoln, and Kennedy) are idolized more so than other types of politicians. It's almost akin to the UK naming things after monarchs.

    I do think it's a little inappropriate to name a school after a still-living president (unless it's based on a generous donation to a department within a university, for example). But still far more appropriate than naming schools after those who openly rebelled against the country.
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  12. Dinner

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    Learn to read, retarded Bitch Boy. Anna and I are not talking about the high school, you insufferable twat. We were talking about a plaque, about half the size of a piece of paper, placed in 1910 saying that point was the end of a transcontinental highway Congress officially named "The Jefferson Davis Highway", you mentally handicapped baboon.

    So in the future please refrain from intruding into conversations when you are to lazy or stupid to even know which topic is being discussed as this will save you from looking like a fool.
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    Meh, same argument applies. The removal of some plaque, doesn't affect you in the slightest unless you want to admit being sympathetic to the confederate cause.... otherwise you're still a bitch boy snowflake.
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    I am most certainly not sympathetic to Confederate causes and have a long history of opposing our local Confederacy supporters. What I do oppose is trying to erase local history and pretending it never existed; in this case a simple historical marker stating the western terminus of the first transcontinental highway in the city I live in.

    So you can take your snowflake stuff and stuff it up your stupid wrong ass at least until you learn to read the topic being discussed before barging in and shouting off topic nonsense.
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    Who's erasing history and pretending it never existed? Just because we took down whites only water fountain signs doesn't mean we've forgotten they existed. You sure do seem to be getting your panties in a twist about nothing and if that isn't exhibiting snowflake like behavior then I don't know what is.
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    What possible good does taking down a 107 year old local plaque noting the point where the regions first transcontinental highway ended? It didn't glorify anything and just noted an import piece of local infrastructure development history and say the official name of the highway given by Congress.

    So you are right that someone here is acting like a snowflake but just as you were wrong about the topic being discussed you are also wrong about who the snowflake is. To see the snowflake I suggest you look in the mirror.
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    Yes. On the contrary, pretending that such monuments are harmless ignores history.
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    A tiny marker saying this is where the first Federal highway in this region ended harma people? It wasn't a Confederate monument. What planet are you from? Clearly not Earth.
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    Of course it wasn't a Confederate monument. It was sponsored by the United Daughters of the Confederacy because of that organisation's long-held deep interest in transportation infrastructure.
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    More then likely the reason Congress named it that was because it mostly went through the south and they needed the backing of southern Congressmen and a name seemed a simple give away to get theor votes. :shrug:
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    Take down the Jeff Davis plaque, put one up saying 'End of Historic US 80, which followed the first federal transcontinental highway.'
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    I would be ok with that as a compromise. Of course it didn't get renamed US 80 until decades later but that would work.

    Instead they just took it down withput replacing it.
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    Since I haven't seen any mention of this at AARoads, this doesn't seem to be an issue with the roadgeek community.
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    sure as fuck need to be.
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    was posted on a local "news" (i.e. ad host) group on Facebook. A lot of irrational responses about how stupid it was, then hilarious flailing as they attempted to explain their objection without being so obviously racist even they could see it.

    I had fun.
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    Because the city of Jackson has the racial diversity of DC - which is to say every white that could afford to bailed out over the last 40 years.
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    You'd need to be hanging out on the alt-roadgeek sites to pick up on the bullshit Dinner is fed and pushes.
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  28. Ancalagon

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    You info on DC is a bit out of date. Due to gentrification/return to cities DC lost it's black majority about 10 years ago.
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    I saw a comment on Facebook that made me almost choke on the tea I was drinking and then flooded me with sadness at the lack of even basic historical understanding.

    "We're changing the name of a school named after a true patriot and putting the name of a traitor on it."

    Wait, what?

    "We're changing the name of a school named after a true patriot (Jefferson Davis, President of the CSA) and putting the name of a traitor (Barack Obama, President of the United States of America) on it."

    The stupid really does burn on this one. That the majority of the responses were similar in nature really showed the racist truth in the "heritage not hate" crowd.
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    Usenet's dead lol
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