Shooting at Florida high school

My take on it is that this outburst is pretty consistent with the rest of his presidency. He really doesn’t care about what side the party is meant to be on, he follows his gut. Rightly or wrongly which as we know, is all a matter of what side of the fence you are on.


I’m guessing he’s not a real gun guy anyway and what he see’s is all of these high school massacres, rather than any worries about people defending his rights to a gun. He’s shooting from the hip and he really doesn’t care about where the funding is coming from.


Even if you don’t agree with him, you have to admit that its refreshing that he seems willing to take such a stance against a powerful lobby group and a good chunk of his supporters.


Despite all of that, I expect it’s bluster and he will have it drilled into him in the next few days that his position is not acceptable to the republican party.

well Stallion his position shouldn't be acceptable to the american people, full stop. It's like free speech - I shouldn't have to like what you say, but I will defend your right to say it. Any party trying to limit freedoms of any type without due process is wrong.

No way dude. He's just "tellin' it like it is".

I don't need a compass to tell me which way the wind is shining. I'm going out today to panic buy the shit out of some guns, PVC pipe, and shovels before it's too late!

Those are Moonies a creepy cult

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unification_Church

Trumps going to ban bump stocks through executive order!

Even a broke clock is right twice a day

But seriously, yeah no to all of what he said. You don't skip due process. You reform and enforce the process in place.

Is that Zephran Cochran in the back with the glasses?

Go home America, you're drunk

We're drunk? Well then you have to drive us all home! BTW I like the phrasing of title of the article : AR-15 Assault Rifles
Is there any other kind of AR-15? BTW that church has "suicidal cult" written all over it......just sayin'.

I wonder about you sometimes. There aren't other kinds of AR-15s, but there are other kinds of so called assault rifles.

Oh of course! But considering an AR-15 is black, plastic, and "military" looking it must be an "assault" rifle. BTW I was driving to work today and NPR had a good point - we need to set the definition of what exactly is an "assault weapon" before we move any further. Many hunting weapons have a larger round capacity than actual "assault" weapons (as defined by the left) so what are we dealing with here? Education of those with zero exposure to weapons might be key here.

Let's dress up in traditional Korean hanbok clothing and wear Pretty Pretty Princess board game crowns, while toting AR-15's to show our devotion to Jesus, a pacifist.

Pennsylvania, my home state.

The Unification "Church" is heretical at best. They have nothing to do with Christ or His church.

"What President Trump meant to say was th..."

If people are going to dress up in robes and hold weapons, they need to be holding lightsabers.

even if we postulate that armed drones are remotely what we're talking about (it's not) the best of those "militia" opponents harass and delay and complicate the efforts of armies. They do not drive them to defeat and surrender. The most they can do is make the cost of the action more expensive than the government in question is willing to pay. Even then, the cost to the militia is extraordinarily high. We've killed more ISIS members than ISIS was originally deemed to have. If there were not others willing to sign up and die too they would be extinct by now.

The question is, do our keyboard patriots have the same "happy to die for my cause" passion as fundamentalist Muslims do?

In the great majority of cases - nope.

Or, you know, you keep fighting because you want to see your country free again, and hope that the people you're fighting (since they'd be fellow Americans) would wake up and decide to stop being storm troopers. Either way there's no way you can make a compelling argument to just lay down and give up, sorry. I'll never understand this mentality of "you wouldn't have a chance anyway, so why not make sure?"

point of order: the NRA claims 4 million members (and that's wildly inflated because no one ever "dies" off their rolls and the give out complementary memberships like candy and once those folks are on the list, they are "members" forever even having paid no dues because it's not in their interest to purge names off the member list)

But let's say they aren't lying and it's 4 million.
That's 1.25% of the U.S. Population

Well I'm sure all those folks in the fascist hellscape of Australia would advise us to never make their mistake....

Truth be told - the closest thing this country has ever had to a true threat to our democratic order is in power in DC RIGHT NOW and the same folks who insist they would take up arms to defend freedom are bowing the knee and blinding themselves to the danger.

The way you stop an oppressive government is BEFORE it comes to bullets - but you have to be informed enough to recognize it coming when you see it.

there are staggering logistical differences in those two situations.

And European resistance movements during WWII aren't the best example to use either.

Of course not.
Trannies are pissing faggotcocked estrogen in our water reservoirs and making men into low test soyboys.

See this is why you can't have a sane discussion with gun lovers.

The 2A itself uses the words "well regulated"

REGULATIONS on time, place, and manner of gun possession, on the requirements necessary to legally use one and the sorts of weapons that it in the interest of the general welfare to be in private hands, are NOT "assaults on your rights"

Your RIGHT (per the modern re-definition of the 2A) is to own and use a firearm - in no other legal sense concerning no other matter is there an implicit "unlimited" attached to that right.

If you are required, for example, to be licensed...if you are required to carry liability insurance...if you are required to disassemble the weapon while transporting it from your home to a place where you are legally authorized to possess it such as a gun club - your RIGHTS have not been assaulted, your PRIVLIGES have.

Until the government says "you are prohibited by law from owning or using any and all firearms" your RIGHTS have not been touched.

it's cute how you think that second-grade attempt at trolling provokes anything but derisive laughter at the feebleness of your attempt.

I guess @Nova forgot about how the revolutionary war ended.

OMG SLIPPERY SLOPE!!!11!!!!1!1!!11!!!!!!!!!!1!

Logistics, sir. Logistics.

Also, I already mentioned above that the only route was to make the price higher than the government wanted to pay - that's what the colonists did. They did not defeat the entire might of the British Empire, they just persisted until the King got tired of fucking with them while he was also busy elsewhere.

That said, King George did not have an air force, or automatic weapons, or armored vehicles, or any number of other technical advantages.

Every other right LITERALLY has limits, imposed by the government no less.