Should noncitizens be allowed to vote?

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  1. cpurick

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    Sorry, can't find where I used the word "all".

    In the interests of accuracy, would it help if I just extrapolate from the number of Republicans in the Congressional Black Caucus?
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  2. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    No. Unless you've got access to everyone's ballot, you have no idea who voted which way unless they tell you. The voices in your head don't count.
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  3. cpurick

    cpurick Why don't they just call it "Leftforge"?

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    You're waffling. If it isn't because of racist sentiments, then it isn't racist. Furthermore, you all but acknowledged that it's political when you said the Democrats would do it too.

    What are the grounds for your concern? The fact that black skin is a reliable index to identify Democrats isn't hate or racism or a violation of civil rights. It's just math, the kind of math that works when people play identity politics.
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  4. cpurick

    cpurick Why don't they just call it "Leftforge"?

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    If you can't be honest enough to admit the Democrat bias among blacks, then what credibility do you have?

    When redistricting by whole neighborhoods, with a demographic distributed like black communities in North Carolina, it isn't necessary to be 100% accurate. The very existence of the Black Congressional Caucus is only possible because the math does work.

    Go bother someone else.
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    Illegal Non-Citizens should be rounded up and deported without a second thought.
    If they try to put up a fight then line them up and simply execute them by shooting them enmasse.
    Pure and simple.

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  8. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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  9. Man Afraid of his Shoes

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    When did I ever say it was racist?

    Because the math involves targeting minorities in order to marginalize the minority vote. How is that not a violation of civil rights? You've already admitted that it was illegal. On what basis was it illegal if it wasn't a violation of civil rights?
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  10. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    so cowardice is in your genes?
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  11. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    have you considered thatit isn't a bias for the Democrats among Blacks, but the bigotry against Blacks among Republicans?
  12. cpurick

    cpurick Why don't they just call it "Leftforge"?

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    Hmm. Have you considered why we call it "the Democrat Plantation"? Does that sound like we think blacks are better off there?
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    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    I've never heard that phrase before so offhand, I'd presume "plantation" is being used to conjure a certain imagery of subservience. You can claim that progressive measures blocked by conservatives fail because no one on the opposite side of the aisle is sincere about fighting for them.
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  14. cpurick

    cpurick Why don't they just call it "Leftforge"?

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    I've already disagreed with the premise of the question. You're still trying to turn anti-Democrat into anti-black.

    And we are a long, long way from agreeing that anything the Dems do in the name of helping blacks actually helps them.
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    It sounds like you think blacks are too stupid to know what’s good for them, and are instead motivated by greed and laziness to vote for whoever promises the most “free stuff.”
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  16. cpurick

    cpurick Why don't they just call it "Leftforge"?

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    Not just blacks. Voters in general. And in fact you have described the operating principle of the Democrat party.
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    Quincunx anti-anti Staff Member Administrator

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    But only the blacks are on the plantation?
  18. Man Afraid of his Shoes

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    So just to be clear, you're saying that minorities were not targeted during the illegal racial gerrymandering that was the subject of Cooper vs. Harris. It was just democrats that were targeted.
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  19. cpurick

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    What do you think?
  20. cpurick

    cpurick Why don't they just call it "Leftforge"?

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    There is no "just to be clear" with you. You don't want to be "clear". You want to look at it only from the one angle that confirms your specific prejudices. It's a much bigger picture than the little lie you're trying to sum it all up in.
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  21. Man Afraid of his Shoes

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    Okay then.
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  22. garamet

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  23. M. Bison

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    True. Not all shitholers...

    Statistically speaking, however, the Democrats benefit bigly from an accelerated rate of shitholers. It’s good for the party — that’s why our core message is let’s have more shitholers “participating” in our institutions, government & communities.

    That’s also why garamet and I are involved in pro-shithole-immigration efforts. Go shitholers!
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  24. Dinner

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