Charlie Brown Thanksgiving Is Now Racist As usual the idiots who play the race card are ignorant of history.
“Some on social media.” There’s always someone on Twitter or Facebook who says ignorant things. One of them is our President.
When it comes to ignorance, to paraphrase the Doors' lyrics, we got the guns (Trump) but you got the numbers (thousands upon thousands of ignorant). Trump may not really be conservative, but boy is he the best anti-liberal cannon to come along in decades. And I'm not even a fan, except for the policy stuff.
A cartoon that has been played yearly since 1973 suddenly becomes "controversial" because some moron looking to shitstir drools something on Twitter and media outlets report it as "news" in order to create their own clickbait. Welcome to the retarded world of social media and online "journalism."
Tells you everything you need to know about how widespread and popular this criticism is. Fake news isn't just limited to politics.
You admire corruption, selfishness and greed masquerading as a set of principles whilst shitting all over the people who supported him? Ok.
It is his thing. That and buying trump's dirty panties on eBay so he can sniff them. Rumor among republicans is they smell like bengay and crippling stupidity. Two of the republican's favorite things.
Well here's the thing, though - it's not necessarily true that Schultz was party to the specific choices made in the broadcast and network TV from the 70's and back were NOTORIOUS for forcing shows to do stupid bigoted shit in order to avoid the potential of offending bigots. I mean, that's about as documented a fact of TV history as exists (also stupid shit like married couples sleeping in twin beds) It's a perfectly reasonable observation to say "look how the networks pandered to bigots in the 70's" about any number of things - why should this be exempt?
That’s called fascism actually. It tends to draw in right leaning people, but it isn’t conservatism. It’s really a reaction to liberal policies, it’s not even a real political system and collapses in on itself after a few years since it cannot sustain itself. But thanks for revealing your fascist leanings I guess.
It does seem like a bit of an odd placement. Why have three people on the other side of the table? If anything I would blame it on an animator or producer who chose the positioning. It would seem like something a producer or animator who was forced to include a black character might have done. It seems like a dog whistle that would have passed by unnoticed way back then. Back then the hurdle was probably more to get the black character in to begin with, and now we see how these things were overlooked by a society that was just beginning to be more inclusive.
I seem to remember something able people being outraged over pigpen being a slight against the poor because poor people are dirty or something like that. The permanently outraged will find any excuse to be assholes. The look everywhere to find something to be outraged about.
When was the last time since the last supper picture was made did everyone except for one person when there was over 6 people sit on one side of the table? Even the last supper diod not have a black guy sitting all alone on one side even though it looks really odd to see everyone on one side of the table. Your bullshit does not fly in this case. Really, if you saw your friends sitting like this at a table you would ask what the guy sitting all alone did. One might say it was a different time and it was something just to have a black character eating with all the white ones. One could say maybe it was just what white people of the time would have done with a black guest. But it is racist even if for the time period it was progressive. You are just a racist little boy aren't you? Feel free not to answer if the answer is yes.
I don't KNOW this but based on what I have read about other shows' battles with "Standards and Practices" I would be VERY shocked if it wasn't originally drawn with, say, Marcie on the side with Franklin and S&P said "no goddamn way that shit will play in the south! Fix it! Fix it right now." Which is to say, I don't think any of the creative folks made a racist choice at all, or even that the network as a whole cared - just some dickwad in S&P being over-careful about the actual bigots among potential viewers who might get mad. It's not necessary to say "they were all racists!!!" in order to observe that the outcome turned out to be bullshit in retrospect.
possibly other folks are not as privileged as you are? I mean yeah, do some people get busted up over bullshit? Oh yeah, and often that's more like to be a conservative who's pissed because it doesn't say Christmas on his coffee cup or some tool like Charlie Kirk whining over imaginary problems like "safe spaces" so let's not pretend it's the whiny liberal snowflakes who have that market cornered. BUT When you use that relatively small cohort of attention hounds to discredit EVERYONE who says "this is some bullshit right here" most of the time it's a luxury you enjoy because said bullshit doesn't affect YOUR life in any way.
Yes, but that would end up having racist reasoning. I agree the racism might have come from S&P not wanting a white girl next to a black boy, but that would have been a racial choice as Charlie brown's sister is next to her crush Linus. So clearly they have no problem with a white girl and boy sitting next to each other when one of them is actually crushing on the other in cannon. As far as I am aware franklin never had any crush or anyone interested in him. If it was the case why not throw Charlie brown on that side of the table? For that matter why not peppermint patty or snoopy? You are clearly not worried about Charlie brown next to patty. Would it be that hard to bring Schroeder into the picture and put him between franklin and linus? This is why I say it was probably an animator's choice to do it. It was subtle enough for the time to not be noticed by even most black people. You had to add him because of diversity, but you could still draw him outside the white cast. I definitely could see S&P being racist and wanting him off to the side because his presence with the white kids might have been too much mixing of the races to handle at the time. But that is racism. No matter where the decision came from the placement is obvious today and it clearly has a racist overtime considering how the rest of the characters are placed. I certainly am not saying everyone was racist. It may have been the choice of s single animator that no one else questioned. edit= you meaning the creators and S&P and not nova.
What’s the bigger outrage? The original Twitter outrage or the outrage over the Twitter outrage because a lot of people seem to seek this shit out and find other people who seek shit out to be outraged about.
The later. It feeds a primal need to feel smug and superior to someone else. Media companies absolutely love it for the low effort required to publish vs. the amount of ad clicks it generates.
Marcy is also by herself at the bottom. It's disappointing that big media will make a controversy out of nothing. You like his policies and his incendiary comments. What exactly do you dislike, then?
No, Marci would be at one of the heads of the table in that case, and the seating arrangement does not make any sense from any perspective other than a racist one. The balance is all off. There are four characters on the right side. What table have you ever been at where four people sat on one side like that? I am not saying it is the end of the universe, but it is an example of how racism slipped into the work of the time. To deny that is to deny the racism of the day. We need to recognize the way it shows itself. We need to see it for what it is. We need to address it and say it is wrong. When we just let it slip by we get republicans.
I think you need to make a stronger case. Besides Franklin picked his own chair. There's a gag where he falls back into it. Video for reference here.
I am not referring to the chair and I think I made my case. If you would like to argue against it go ahead.
I must have been in a different 70s - I remember shows that made fun of bigotry and had inclusive casts. I don't know what went on behind the scenes, tho.
I guess Good Times, All in the Family, Sanford and Son ad the like never existed in Nova’s alternate timeline.
Except the table itself is twice the width at Macie's end than at Linus'. I agree that none of it makes sense. But if the races of the characters were reversed and a white male got a whole side the table to himself with a chair that reclines, we might call that privilege.
I'm actually tending to look at the picture and see the opposite interpretation. Given the character was introduced deliberately in light of MLK isn't it possible the seating position was deliberately symbolic of the way black people were treated in society at the time? Couldn't it be a subtle piece of social commentary?
