SARS II: Respiratory Boogaloo

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  1. Man Afraid of his Shoes

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    Did anybody see Alex Azar being interviewed on CBS this morning? I think I mis-heard his explaining Operation Warp Speed. I wasn't paying close attention, but it sounded something like "We're cutting out all of the inefficiencies that make developing a vaccine so time consuming. It may not be safe, and it may not work, but at least we'll be vaccinating people." Then the wife (who voted for Trump, bless her heart) screamed out, "FUCK!!!!" and changed the channel.
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  2. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Proving once again that there is no "United" States of America, just 50 little fiefdoms doing whatever the fuck they please. :garamet:
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  3. oldfella1962

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    so I guess an "antibody test" wouldn't ensure that you're safe. The last thing I read was if you had COVID and survived you would have antibodies that would protect you for a year or so but not indefinitely.
    Six weeks or was definitely not very long - I'm sure science is researching the hell out of these five sailors, or trying to get the navy to collaborate on researching them. Damn COVID has some curveballs for your ass that's for sure!
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    I don't know if anyone has done the study in detail. In any case, the results are hard to compare from one place to another, because of population densities and a few other factors. But I read it somewhere, so I checked it out for myself a few days ago and discovered that if you even leave just Michigan and New York out of the picture, you get a positive infection rate for the US as a whole over the previous month. (Both states, while being a long way from having "conquered" it, have brought the number of new cases down very seriously.)

    If I re-did the calculations today, it might be that the results are different. There have been a few states that have tried really serious measures, such as Ohio and California, that still haven't seen much in terms of results. There are also a few states that are not taking it very seriously, that are not seeing infection rates go up very much, because their populations are so spread out they just naturally do very serious social distancing.
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    I think NOLA is on the downside too
  6. Nova

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    Which is quite possibly the coming reality in fact, as well as spirit (well, not 50 but ...6-10?
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    Pretty much just what we're trained to do, sadly.
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    My thought is that they were in close contact with an infected person. There are limits to what the immune system can do. It does not stop the virus from ever being in your body again. It simply knows how to attack it when it sees it, and it could be overwhelmed. Or it could be they carry the infection while being immune to it. Since there are recovering patients and we are not hearing of massive numbers of these things happening while we have massive numbers of infected this would just be pointless fear mongering until the scientists figure out what happened.

    Yay selling news with fear FTW!
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    Thanks for not bringing out those calculations again.
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    This is only based on what I've read (from reputable journals) but I think the best case scenario at this stage is that COVID-19 eventually becomes like influenza.

    That is, we'll never be completely immune to it but our bodies will learn to fight it so the symptoms and outcomes won't be as severe. It will, unfortunately, kill a small percentage of people every year but it won't be as bad as what we're seeing right now. It's bad now because it's new and our immune systems don't know how to deal with it.

    I'd like to think we'll learn from this and prepare for the next novel virus, but I've been sadly let down by our species as whole. :(
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    So...what’s the requirement to be a health professional?
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    I see no stats, accreditations, or accomplishments so how am I supposed to judge anything?

    Is there some sort of code in the pictures that would give us a hint?
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  14. Man Afraid of his Shoes

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    The one center on the top looks like Lori Lightfoot, but I'm pretty sure she's a lawyer by training, so I don't get the health professional part. :shrug:
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    I am thinking the bleach has finally found @Max Rebo 's ganglion and is fucking with it.
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    HHS Secretary Azar agrees with Jake Tapper that it's absurd for health insurance companies to exclude or vilify customers for pre-existing conditions.

    Well, no, the fucker TRIED to argue that the US only has nearly 90,000 dead because those people were all unhealthy fuckers, only when Tapper confronted him on victim shaming he tried to walk it back.
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    Pretty sure she’s really the Belgian Waffle Minister

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    The sailors getting hit again is certainly not spreading fear so much as spreading what could be pertinent information for the general public. The sailors are in the least likely demographic group (other than children) to die from it. They are young and strong with no serious underlying health issues, and free medical care when they do have a temporary health issue.
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    more bounce to the ounce!
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    The data from the so-called "re-infections" in South Korea indicated that people can test positive even after recovering because the test is able to detect the "dead" (they were never really "alive", but you know what I mean) virus material floating around the body.

    If these sailors are true "re-infections", then they are the first official examples of such a thing.
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  22. Max Rebo

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    https://t.co/ltccgJ3mAi?amp=1
    Study claiming new coronavirus can be transmitted by people without symptoms was flawed
    you’ve been played idiots
  23. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Trying for "serious poster" now, are you?
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    great! If you can't trust China, who can you trust? :no: They've never played it fast & loose with the facts before! :shrug:
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    More like dinner-level, because he missed this part of the article
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  27. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    @Max Rebo should volunteer to be Patient Zero in the Conspiracy Theory Olympics. A trip to his local ICU without a mask should cure him of what ails him. I just hope he doesn't have family. :bergman:
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    Your article is from Feburary 3, genius. There's been plenty of confirmation of asymptomatic transmission since then.
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    No. :bergman:
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