SARS II: Respiratory Boogaloo

Don't need to quit, I can remote work. And get Amazon deliveries at a safe social distance.

Besides, the argument has shifted to your usual "if you think X, you must also think ridiculous thing Y" bullshit.

My country is a capitalist economy, but with a strong history of social safety nets and workers' rights. Admittedly, the party currently in power is trying to model itself after the US, but we don't have the excesses of the US system yet. No-one here is saying don't get back to work, but they ARE saying do it safely and not just because the economy might suffer.

oh so you are capitalist but only for the right reasons - got it. And again a person who has the ability to work from home telling everyone that staying at home is no problem. Got it.
And yes we have been getting back to work and doing it smartly despite a few idiots that are of course on the news so the terrified can wail "see! It's not working! I told ya! Now we need to lockdown even tighter!"

You’re a tranny??? I knew there was something mentally off about you.

Well Trump can't have it both ways! He said he was going to let the governors handle reopening - then he says he may have to overrule them if they don't open churches.
Here in Georgia they opened churches (maybe they never closed them I have no idea) but as long as they practice social distancing and disinfecting and whatnot they shouldn't be singled out as a risk, yet they shouldn't be given a pass on these things either. Treating them like a gym would work fine. Most churches don't want to endanger the very vulnerable members (lotsa old people in church) so they are doing online or parking lot versions of church anyway.

But as for Darwin weeding them out, remember that the people in church on Sunday might be in your workplace on Monday, so it can affect everybody.

Be wary of that particular assertion, if you are referring to the Kapinsky study there are several reasons to be cautious about drawing conclusions or extrapolating the findings.

No. You have not been doing it smartly. You have been doing it to a death count of one 9/11 per day.

This is a little reported fact about New York.

Cuomo ordered people with Covid19 to nursing homes.

It's the same in Michigan.

The governor ordered people with Covid19 to nursing homes.

In fact there's a huge scandal now because of this beating:



The guy arrested isn't actually a nurse but he was sent to the nursing home because he has Covid19. His family says he has mental health problems and should have never been sent to that nursing home.

https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/fa...ursing-home-says-son-shouldnt-have-been-there

But it's the Republican governors who are killing people.

Eh, my Republican governor did the same thing. The reason given was that they simply had no where else for the people to go. That may not be the case in every state, but it’s what happened here.

A lot of residents in nursing homes have been dying as a result.

Source?

No shit. A lot of people are going to be dying because Republican governors are reopening their states without a vaccine. We’ve got idiots on all sides of the political spectrum and until we make some fundamental changes to the country, it’s going to continue.

Yet the only people catching heat are Republican governors. Besides, we can’t remain on lockdown until we have a vaccine.

Which do you think is going to get more people killed? Reopening the states or stuffing sick people (and in at least my state, they were the ones who were starting to recover from the disease, it might be different in others) into nursing homes?

Oh yes we can. Not the way we've been doing it, admittedly, but it would be possible for us to lockdown the country until such time as there's a vaccine ready. And if we did it the right way, we'd only need to be locked down for a few months, and then we could open things back up even without a vaccine.

As hard as it might be to believe, but the lockdowns we've been under are nothing like the ones we used to have back when smallpox was a thing. Back then, they used to nail you up inside your house and anyone who tried to escape or release the people inside before the quarantine was over were lucky if they only got their ass beat. We've just gotten soft in thinking that lockdowns are some kind of horrible nightmare, because the folks who got sealed up inside their houses didn't have internet, broadcast TV, or probably even a lot of books. Can you imagine the uproar that would occur today if any President, regardless of party tried to do that shit? Of course, the coronavirus isn't quite as deadly or as infectious as smallpox was, so doing something like that is probably overkill. Still, it would stop the spread.

Sending covid-19 recovering patients to nursing homes may have been a mistake.

There is no way of knowing if nursing home infections were increased as a result of sending recovering covid-19 patients to nursing homes. But it's what they do: patient long-term non-critical care.

Here's more from the AP (source):

To be sure, incoming residents weren’t the only possible source of infection. Some homes believe a bigger contribution came from staffers and residents unaware they had the virus. And some say they would have taken on COVID-19 patients regardless of the state’s order.

“There were nursing homes that realized that there was a void,” said Sarah Colomello, a spokeswoman for Thompson House in Rhinebeck. The 100-bed facility set up an isolated unit where affiliated hospitals nearby have sent at least 21 patients. It has reported no deaths.

Cuomo administration officials say the original directive came when the governor feared the hospital system would be overwhelmed and was focused on creating as much hospital space as possible.

That was welcomed by one of the many hospital systems and nursing homes surveyed for AP’s count. Northwell Health said three of its medical centers were so overtaxed at one point they had to put some ICU patients in hallways. To relieve pressure, the company eventually sent more than 1,700 COVID-19 patients to nursing homes.

“Suffice it say, our hospitals were under stress,” spokesman Terence Lynam said.​

when I say "we" I mean Augusta Georgia. Remember 50 (count em' fifty) states and countless cities & towns. 327,000,000 million people so yeah, things may not go as smoothly as they would on whatever plant you are from.

oh, just a simple mistake. Good thing Trump didn't do this, it would be cold-blooded murder.

You didn't need to qualify the "cold-blooded" bit.

In other words it's not practical so no, no we can't.

Oh, it’s practical, we just happen to have an idiot running the country who is incapable of taking the necessary steps to do it. Any other President within my lifetime, and I was born when LBJ was in office, could take the necessary actions if this had happened under their watch. Now, not all of them could have done it in a manner which would have insured their re-election, Carter springs to mind, but the others would have had the sense to handle it correctly. One need only look at Ford’s response to the Swine Flu outbreak to see am example of a US President often considered to be a boob getting it right.

And how many jobs have to be lost, people's families to be torn apart and small businesses to close permanently to do so?

hmmm....how many suicides, families torn apart, bankruptcies, lost homes, lost jobs and lost businesses should be sacrificed? Trick question - ALL OF THEM!
Lives will be lost, but not so many to COVID-19 and that's what matters most. America is only a country - there are hundreds of others! Then the United Nations, or Russia or China or some other powerful, helpful group can take what's left of our country under their wing. America (and the rest of the world to be honest) will be better off for it anyway.
We're all in this together!

Jesus fuck. It'd be safer for everyone to put the excess patients in tents in the hospital parking lot than to send them to nursing homes, unless the wings they were sent to were evacuated and isolated - including air and having different staff - first. What the hell were they thinking?

Narendi Modi disagrees: Hold my Darjeeling.
1.3 billion Indians disagree!
Cyclone Amphan agree's: Suck it, Kolkata! O hai thar Dhaka!

Had he taken the outbreak seriously from the beginning, the extreme steps wouldn't be necessary.