You're already paying for corn subsidies, and a shitload of that corn goes into corn syrup that goes into soda. So, really, soda should be free. You're paying for soda twice when you buy it. And all soda does is cause diabetes. I mean, if you're paying anyway, at least it should be nourishing instead of poison.
I'm cool with my tax dollars funding free (excuse me, free-at-point-of-service!) meatloaf and green beans for somebody else's kid. I can think of a lot worse ways to spend it.
Of course, this will also deprive some among the right wing of the pleasure of humiliating kids who don't have lunch money. "They're poor because they deserve to be poor and they must be punished!"
Do you know many kids who pay taxes? I don't understand why you think you're making a point. It's literally free to the kids, i.e., the ones receiving the meal.
You would if it was delivered free to your doorstep like it should be. If not, I guess you could water your plants with it. Cuz it has the electrolytes that plants crave.
$3 a day. That's what's most schools charge. Assuming an average school yr of 180 days, that's a whopping $540 per kid. That's a drop in the bucket compared with what taxpayers pay for corporate subsidies. If you and Lanz wanna be mad about the language instead of being happy that children won't starve...that says more about you two than anything.
I currently pay income tax at the highest bracket in the UK. I'd love to see all students get free meals at my expense.
I pay a shitload of taxes and have no problem with kids who might not be able to afford to eat a decent lunch year round have the ability to do so That shit puts a smile on my face
We have an over abundance of food that gets thrown away every fucking day due to various health code violations and regulations and so on (you know, big government interference) that could be donated to the poor and the homeless. We have food drives all of the time where people empty out their pantries for various causes as well. As it's been pointed out before, the food that school districts buy is dirt cheap, there's absolutely no reason why school lunches can't be "free." Yeah I think it's kind of dumb to say things like free tuition or free healthcare, but in this case, these are kids, they deserve to have three proper meals a day. There's a fuck tons of things I do have a problem paying taxes for, this isn't one of them.
Are you sure it's health codes and regulations, or corporate greed? When grocery stores are pouring bleach on the food they throw out and getting cops to protect dumpsters from hungry people during disasters, I feel like that's more than just health codes. I once worked at a big retail pharmacy chain that would allow damaged boxes of Christmas candies to find their way into the break room every year. They were huge sticklers for every health and safety regulation on the books, but also we were adding free brandy beans and kahlua chocolates to our coffee all December in the hopes of getting a mild buzz. EDIT: Oh, and did you ever notice that shitty restaurants will tell you you're not allowed to have any outside food or drinks with you "because of health regulations," but fancy restaurants will happily serve you a bottle of wine or a cake that you brought with you for an additional service fee? The shitty restaurants are lying to you.
And the movie theaters. Well...actually theaters don't lie, they basically come out and say "buy our food, muthafucka, or we kick you out". But the teenagers that run the place don't care. You just have to put minimal effort into your smuggling so they're not forced to say something.
2 things about that. 1. food merchants make their income based on mark ups on the food they buy and resell. If you purchase somewhere else then they do not make any money just giving you a place to sit. When I ran my paintball business the money was made on selling paint. There were some safety concerns with outsaide paint brought in, but we had employees, land rental, maintenance, and insurance to pay for that was all basically done by paint sales. Profit from food sales is what they are about, so if you want to eat for free then go to someplace you can sit and eat that does not pay shitloads of money for the environment you eat in. The additional service fee would cover their expenses for the venue you eat in. 2. Not for nothing, but people are fucking slobs. Cross contamination is a thing, and if some idiot gets sick from their own food it is about impossible to prove you did not make them sick. Your business does cartry insurance that will end up being responsible for lawsuits, and the state could take away your licenses and ability to operate if people get sick. Those things are there for a reason. If you let the slobs do what they want it would be so much worse than it is with people carting rotten unrefrigerated food into your place of operations and scumming it up. Now you don't just lose profits but you are taking on the responsibility of the world of anti-vax idiots who will cart in roadkill or some junk they got from the dumpster to avoid paying your business expenses. Most places will not even give you a service fee because it ruins their profits, and it endangers their business legally by making them liable for the world of idiots. Oh, 3rd thing. You also must remember the alcohol and food distributors have their differing mark ups for your food. I do not even think it is legal to sell a retail bottle of alcohol in a food service establishment because the distributors have different cuts for when you buy your alcohol in a retail establishment over a restaurant. I am pretty sure the same goes for food. Food service buys their product from places we can't without a retail license. I used to run a kitchen for a bar and grill. We would buy from a place that sold only to restaurant owners. The bottles of alcohol you get having an established alcohol license and selling to customers who are going to consume on premises are marked. If you end up getting caught with retail alcohol containers in a bar you will lose your license and be fined. If you are caught selling those bottles to people who do not consume on premises then you will be fined and lose your license. Yes, it is mainly for the profit of the distributors who get different profits based on where it is sold, but they have to make their money too. Yes, I agree it is mostly for the profit, but there is a health concern with packaging and tampering, but there is also a storage and quality issue that goes into some of these things. When you are paying huge amounts for a bottle of brand name alcohol you do not want it coming from some dude's garage in fluctuating temps. You do not want your produce served from some dude's garage, and tracing the supply line for diseased food is important for recalls. Maybe in a better world where you do not have most people being scumbag trumpista grifters who hate science you might change things, but I am for more secured supply lines with business insurance that you can get some monetary compensation when you end up hospitalized with food poisoning because of contaminated food. That is not going to happen when you have MTG scamming the system because god will save everyone and regulations bad.
Theaters pay massive amounts for lots of empty space, and they get raped by places like lucasfilm demanding they have specialized sound and video systems for their crapfest that have to be upgraded because they want to doubledip on their specific film with tech sales. Your local theater is not the problem. Given your comentary status you should be aware you do not operate on ticket sales alone as a theater. When places like netflix can afford to make their own movies on a monthly fee that is about the cost of one movie theater ticket you have to realize that the profits for the theater system of distribution are eaten up by the tech and development of retail fronts that take up huge amounts of square footage commercial rental property. Commercial rental property is expensive as fuck. One theater in a mall could be a retail establishment jammed with product.
Hey @Lanzman can you share the dictionary you use, because your continued insistence that something being free requires no-one to have paid any money towards it at any point doesn't match any definition I can find. (the first example provided in the above is extremely relevant) These 5 definitions I looked up all seem to support the commonly held view that when describing something as free, who it is free to is usually defined in the context of the sentence. Examples: Businessman in boardroom: "It's free for us to offer people this item!" In this case the word free is used to describe the item in relation to the company, suggesting that the proposal involves no extra cost to the company. In this case it would also be a valid statement whether the people to which it is being offered paid or not. Businessman in boardroom: "People will get this for free" In this case the people who are receiving the item in question are the subject of the statement, suggesting it involves no cost to them. In this case it would also be a valid statement whether or not the company had to pay for the item in question. The above is my understanding, and from the evidence in the thread that shared by the majority of English speakers in it. However I acknowledge that the world is large and regional dialects can use words differently, so I would love to see the source of your definition, which due to your insistence I assume is backed up by something beyond your own subjective opinion on how the word should be used.
The whole @Lanzman part of this argument is stupid, cruel, and selfish. First off, who the fuck cares about the technicality of free or not? The argument that taxpayers have to pay for it is stupid considering we already have the distribution method set up, and the mass cooking for school cafeterias is so cheap that it barely costs the taxpayers anything to accomplish this. Since children getting fed is an important part of continuing our society, and it is something our society is able to do so easily, we really should be ashamed we do not do this. Even fucking animals help feed their young, but not selfish conservatives like lanzman. No, he has to fucking bitch that he might have to pay a little tiny bit to something we all need. The reality is we should all be getting basic food for fucking free at this point. Just for fucking being alive we should make food a basic structure of every economy on earth because good food infrastructure would benefit everyone, and it is a necessity for everyone. But not the republican dipshit Lanzeman, he has got to fucking whine about it. Second, this shows a cruel sadism inside of every republican psychopath. If you hear conservative republican you should think sadistic psychopath at this point, and this is evidence. Who the fuck complains about feeding hungry kids? Who is so sadistic and hateful that they get angry about feeding hungry children? Why is it ruining Lanzman's day that some kids are getting a free fucking meal at school? If people are going to make judgments about my morality and ethics for being a fucking crossdressing junkie who enjoys living off the wealth of my family and has participated in some interesting sexual debauchery, then what the fuck do you think of a guy who is so selfish and cruel that he is angered we are fixing the problem of hungry kids by using tax money to feed them? WTF sort of sick fuck is that? Even depraved criminals in prison would feed starving kids if you gave them a chance. How selfish is this that someone wants to horde so much that we cannot do something so important to survival and society that they can't be happy our government pays some of the trillions of dollars it wastes every day on some kids eating? What sort of level of selfish is this? If you said my taxes were going to be used to feed all children in society and make sure they have healthy robust meals I would be more inclined to want to pay taxes. I give to charitable organization who try to make this a reality. I would vote for a government that provided this basic function. As a race we should be ashamed we have not made this a reality for everyone given our abilities as a society. What the everloving fuck Lanzman? This complaint is vile on a level of vile I am not used to. You know what is really sad? We are so used to this sort of vile evil selfishness and sadistic psychopathic desire to harm our young that we do not see this as it should be. We do not look at conservatives and go what the fuck is wrong with you sick right wing fucks that you would be so bothered by children eating for free. In my most awful moments of hounding someone to suicide, or my most sexually disgusting perversions, or my worst angry rage filled moments of kill another person of road rage do I think feeding children is something society should not be doing because it might cost a few dollars in tax money. I know the evil and vile demons of our souls when I see them, and mostly because I have some, and lanzman and the right wing need to sit the fuck down, shut the fuck up, and think long and hard about the scum they have become.
I hadn't actually considered challenging the definition of "free", possibly because the whole "There's no such thing...." thing is so ingrained. Must remember, figures of Depeche may not be literally true.....
It is ingrained. One of the most common jokes I’ve heard revolve around whether you should just pay for a prostitute to get laid because it’s cheaper than going on several dates before you finally get lucky, either way you’re paying for sex.
Came here to say this. The studios throw the movie theaters over the pinball machine with the graduated profit scale as it is, but Disney also demands X number of screens for thwur films or nothing at all. I can't wait for President AOC to bust that monopoly up in 2032
I think you mean "enraged," and I've long since learned that "buy one, get one free" actually means "get two that are 50% off."
Can you imagine the last time anyone asked Lanzman out on a date? That must have been a disaster. "Hey Lanz, are you free this Friday?" "Am I fuckin' WHAT?!?! PREPARE TO BE EDUCATED, LIBTARD!"
