Are you still an Orthodox Jew? If so, go fuck yourself.

Got any data for that?

No?

Didn't think so.

Those percentages have more to do with age and gender than where and by whom.

Girls ages 16 to 19 are more likely to be victims of rape - in nearly any situation she finds herself in.

Boys under the age of 18 are more likely to suffer at the hands of a trusted adult - family member, priest, coach, etc.

A child is sexually assaulted EVERY 9 MINUTES. Instead of throwing blame from one group to another, just accept that it is happening and you have the power to stop it.

CBS reported in 2006 that it was likely 100x greater in schools than churches. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/has-media-ignored-sex-abuse-in-school/

No, CBS reprinted an opinion column from the National Review by the Editor of the National Catholic Register. That is not reporting.

Catholic Church would rather toss the blame to someone else than attempt to rectify the problem or assume responsibility.

An opinion column that contains lots of assertions, and a handful of disconnected statistics strung together in such a way that they sound the way the author wants them to sound, but that do not actually back up the assertion in any way.

Shut the fuck up, you jizz guzzling cum rag.

No one likes you

Jizz guzzling cum rag? So a cannibal?

No, because the entity itself is the rag, not the cum.

You want to start a new thread entitled "Are you still a Conservative Jew? If so, go fuck yourself." Or can we just lump all the atrocities committed by members of the Jewish religion in this thread?

I mean, I get that there are a wide range of differences between the various sects of Judaism, even though we non-Jews kinda lump them all together. Not terribly different than how us non-Catholics tend to lump the various sects of Catholicism (and yes, there are different sects, read up on the group that Amy Covid Barrett belongs to, then the one that Mel "I hope you get raped by a pack of n-words" Gibson belongs to, and realize that there's more than that) into the same broad umbrella of Catholicism, even though some of the sects don't recognize any of the elected Popes since Vatican II.

Mods, please change Tuckerfan's username to "Whoopi Goldberg."

Only if Dayton is unbanned. What with him absolutely hating her, it'll open up the possibility of him having a fatal stroke.

He does?

That must've happened while I was overseas in Japan, I got holes in my memory from that time due to deployments and being one a different time zone from everyone besides Bailey.

It wasn't that long ago

That's him in response to the idea that she would be in Discovery. I assume that you already know he liked to bitch about Nichelle recounting how MLK told her not to quit even though she hated the part. Seems pretty obvious as to what the through-line is that upsets him so.

Once again, the common element.

Conservatism and rapeyness/all-around criminality really do seem to go hand-in-hand, don't they?

Did you read the article? Inappropriate as it is, it's not rapey or criminal.

Atrocities? This is an atrocity? It's definitely inappropriate, but an atrocity? The fuck is wrong with you?

Of all the things to double down on this shouldn't be it.

You really think that this is the only incident that's happened in a Jewish community (regardless of what sect they might have belonged to)? This happened because of a power imbalance tied to religion. Does that somehow make it less bad than if it was "merely" a work-related incident? To stay with the work-related aspect of things, suppose I refer to a company (we'll pick Nestle for this example) for committing "an atrocity" because they make people in the US work 16-hour days at some of their facilities, is that somehow invalid because they buy chocolate from places that use literal child slave labor? I'm not talking about the child slave labor used to provide chocolate for Nestle, even though they've been reported to do so.

Yeah, maybe the specific thing I'm talking about isn't nearly as horrific using children as slaves, but it's still pretty bad, and if you post something about Nestle happily ignoring the fact that the folks who sell Nestle chocolate use child slaves I'm not going to say, "Whoa! Wait a minute here, I don't give three fucks about what Nestle does in some other country, all I care about is what they do to Americans." My response is going to be, "Gee, those fucksticks are even worse than I thought." (Not really, since I already know that Nestle happily buys shit produced by children forced into slave labor, but I think you get the idea.)

To flip it back to religion, Catholic priests raping kids have been a joke for as long as I can remember. Does that mean I shouldn't consider it an atrocity when we get concrete evidence that not only were they doing that, but they were also being cruel to unwed mothers or murdering children? Because they've done all those things, and worse. And the only reason that it's not been taken more seriously is due to the fact that people tend to give religion some slack? Mind you, if you look at things objectively, we cut large organizations (be they secular or religious) far more slack than we do individuals. I kill half a dozen people and I'm going to get the death penalty. A corporation or a religious organization can knowingly kill thousands or more, and not a whole lot will happen to them. GM fucking knew that leaded gasoline was dangerous, and they're still around. How many kids have been murdered by Catholic orphanages and yet the Catholic Church is still around? WTF?

Absolutely Jews have been given the short end of the stick in a lot of periods of history. I've posted about the horrors of the Nazi death camps before. But don't pretend that those segments tied to the Jewish religion haven't been guilty of concealing the same kind of crimes that other religious organizations have. Because when you have an organization (be it religious or not) where those in power cannot be questioned by others, you have created a situation where abuse isn't merely possible, it is inevitable. You might only be hearing about something "minor," but trust me, far worse things will eventually come to light. The only question is: How will we respond to them? Will we say that it doesn't matter how much you suffered, the fact that you were the victim of a power imbalance is wrong? Or will we say that since you didn't have to endure something as bad as this group over here, your suffering doesn't matter?

So if I ask if we should have one thread for Nestle being a shitty company because I don't happen to like how one of their products tastes and another because they buy chocolate from people who use children as slave labor, or if we can just go ahead and lump them all into the same thread about how Nestle is a garbage company that nobody should support for a variety of reasons, how do you respond? Because that's what I'm asking here. Sure, a crappy frozen pizza is way the fuck different than using children as slave labor to harvest chocolate, but if you bitch about one, I'm not going to call you out of line because you didn't bitch about the other.

Oh, and would I be out of line if I said that a job offer at a prestigious publication was an atrocity because it only paid $40K/yr and you had to live near NYC? Because that’s a thing:
And I think it’s an atrocity that someone should be offered such a salary in an expensive place to live. Granted, it’s not as bad as being sexually harassed or fucking murdered, but it’s goddamned stupid to think that this is a viable income. Don’t you agree?

I remember watching TCAP back in the day and they had a bunch of rabbis caught up in the trap. There was another group that had a large showing that was not religious leaders was IT workers. That seems like it might just be statistically obvious as back in the day IT workers were driving more of the online chat than app oriented smart phone use which was not huge yet.

Still, I would suspect that any religious leader should not be left alone with children.

No. Not remotely. Stupid, yes. Unfair, yes. Atrocity, no. Fuck no.

I'm not in love with this thread.