The Jeffery Epstein Case

matthunter · Jan 5, 2022

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The Grand Old Duke Of York
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14thDoctor · Jan 5, 2022

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So like when are they going to go after all the men that paid to have sex with minor, sex trafficked girls?
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I wasn't ever quite clear on this... Was Epstein pimping these girls out to rich creeps that were knowingly paying for sex with minors, or did Epstein provide the minors as party favours/bait for blackmail purposes and the rich creeps more or less thought the minors were into them?

Not that it makes a huge difference since old dudes banging minors is generally wrong no matter the circumstances, but I could imagine a narcissist like Donald Trump or a naive dork like Bill Gates not questioning their old pal Jeffrey when he says he's throwing a private party and there'll be plenty of cute teenagers there that just so happen to be uncontrollably horny for rich, powerful men.

MikeH92467 · Jan 5, 2022

14thDoctor said: ↑

Ten Lubak said: ↑

So like when are they going to go after all the men that paid to have sex with minor, sex trafficked girls?
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I wasn't ever quite clear on this... Was Epstein pimping these girls out to rich creeps that were knowingly paying for sex with minors, or did Epstein provide the minors as party favours/bait for blackmail purposes and the rich creeps more or less thought the minors were into them?

Not that it makes a huge difference since old dudes banging minors is generally wrong no matter the circumstances, but I could imagine a narcissist like Donald Trump or a naive dork like Bill Gates not questioning their old pal Jeffrey when he says he's throwing a private party and there'll be plenty of cute teenagers there that just so happen to be uncontrollably horny for rich, powerful men.
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Good point, is he just a guy who threw really good parties that were the ultimate networking opportunity or was he just a clean, white pimp/sex trafficker? Were those rich creeps really naive or just so arrogant that they thought they weren't doing anything wrong. Speaking personally, I find the thought of having sex with women young enough to be my daughter a bit creepy and women young enough to be my granddaughter disgusting. But that's just me...

Tererune · Jan 5, 2022

MikeH92467 said: ↑

14thDoctor said: ↑

Ten Lubak said: ↑

So like when are they going to go after all the men that paid to have sex with minor, sex trafficked girls?
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I wasn't ever quite clear on this... Was Epstein pimping these girls out to rich creeps that were knowingly paying for sex with minors, or did Epstein provide the minors as party favours/bait for blackmail purposes and the rich creeps more or less thought the minors were into them?

Not that it makes a huge difference since old dudes banging minors is generally wrong no matter the circumstances, but I could imagine a narcissist like Donald Trump or a naive dork like Bill Gates not questioning their old pal Jeffrey when he says he's throwing a private party and there'll be plenty of cute teenagers there that just so happen to be uncontrollably horny for rich, powerful men.
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Good point, is he just a guy who threw really good parties that were the ultimate networking opportunity or was he just a clean, white pimp/sex trafficker? Were those rich creeps really naive or just so arrogant that they thought they weren't doing anything wrong. Speaking personally, I find the thought of having sex with women young enough to be my daughter a bit creepy and women young enough to be my granddaughter disgusting. But that's just me...
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I would say he was probably different things to different people. It sounds like parties he attended off his island were a great place to network as a politician. There was probably social elites there where you could gain support for investments or power. It sounds like you could also get some acting or drug connections. He probably facilitated a number of corrupt and illegal relationships, and connections with legitimate people. You might have been complicit with your silence and blindness to his actions because him and his allies could ruin you.

I highly doubt sex trafficking was his only business.

Tuckerfan · Jan 8, 2022

Tuckerfan · Jan 8, 2022

Are they really going to target another woman and not the men?

Next Target for Epstein Prosecutors Could Be His Assistant Sarah Kellen

At Ghislaine Maxwell’s criminal trial—where the former girlfriend of Jeffrey Epstein was convicted on five counts related to child sex-trafficking—a victim named Carolyn testified that a second woman also arranged for her to be molested by the perverted multimillionaire.

Sarah Kellen, a former assistant to Epstein, scheduled some of her “massage” appointments at his Palm Beach lair, sent for cars to pick her up and once took nude photographs of her for the pedophile, Carolyn said. “[Kellen] called and said she was calling in regards to Mr. Epstein,” she testified, “and that I would get paid $500 to $600 if she could take pictures of me.”

Kellen “knew what was going on,” Carolyn later added. “She was older than me, so she was an adult. She knew what was happening.”

Indeed, Kellen was part of Epstein’s inner circle for more than a decade and named among four “potential co-conspirators” in the financier’s lenient plea deal in Florida in 2008. That year, multiple teenage victims, including Carolyn, filed lawsuits against Epstein as well as Kellen, with one complaint describing Kellen as his “lieutenant” who “served as both his scheduler and a recruiter/procurer of the girls.”

Now, in the wake of Maxwell’s guilty verdict, Kellen is one of Epstein’s longtime associates who could still face a criminal indictment.

Asked why Kellen wasn’t charged alongside Maxwell, victims’ attorney Brad Edwards said, “I think that’s probably phrased more accurately as why she wasn’t charged yet.”

“The way that I see it is: Sarah has been given dozens if not hundreds of chances to potentially reposition herself in this narrative,” Edwards told The Daily Beast. “You’re either on the side of the victims or the other side, which is the side of the bad guys.”

Kellen and her representatives declined to comment for this story.

Throughout Maxwell’s trial in Manhattan federal court, Kellen was mentioned dozens of times as a key employee in Epstein’s world, one who answered phones at his Florida mansion, scheduled his massages, called his pilots to arrange flights on his private jets, and sent packages to Carolyn. Prosecutors entered a handful of photographs of her into evidence—one showing her in Epstein’s embrace as they stood before a private plane, two of her smiling next to Maxwell, and a fourth posing at what appears to be one of Epstein’s properties.

In closing arguments, the defense tried to shift blame to Kellen when it came to Carolyn’s accusations of abuse. “Now, the government wants you to believe that because Ghislaine Maxwell traveled to Palm Beach … and helped to manage Epstein’s properties, she was the one orchestrating massages, despite the fact that you’ve seen no proof of that, no message pads, no phone records, nothing,” lawyer Laura Menninger told jurors. “You’ve seen Sarah Kellen was there.”

Despite her name haunting the proceedings, Kellen wasn’t called to testify and the government didn’t grant her immunity. The defense, at a Dec. 18 conference, identified Kellen as one of several witnesses they were unable to call because they would have invoked their Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination.

The Manhattan U.S. Attorney’s Office declined to comment on why Kellen, now 42, wasn’t granted immunity to testify against Maxwell.

But Kellen could have another chance to cooperate should Maxwell be granted a retrial. Last week, the socialite’s lawyers asked for a do-over after a juror gave a flurry of media interviews detailing how he shared his own experience with child sexual abuse during deliberations to sway other skeptical jurors. The juror, identified by his first and middle names Scotty David, reportedly did not disclose this on his jury questionnaire, raising questions about whether the panel that found Maxwell guilty was impartial.

One month after Epstein’s death in August 2019, Kellen came forward as a victim herself. Her spokeswoman Tracy Schmaler has said that she was 22 when Epstein and Maxwell recruited her as an assistant for the British heiress. At the time, she’d been “cast out of the Jehovah’s Witness community in which she had been born and raised” and divorced by a man she married at age 17, Schmaler said. “Very soon after Sarah was brought into Epstein’s world,” she added, “he began to sexually abuse her, and this abuse went on for years.”

“Sarah was targeted by Epstein and Maxwell when she, like many of their victims, was extremely vulnerable—struggling financially and emotionally,” Schmaler said in statements provided to the media. The spokeswoman added that Kellen was “sexually and psychologically abused by Epstein and Maxwell.”

“She was one of dozens of assistants who worked for Epstein and Maxwell over the years,” Schmaler said. “One of her many duties included scheduling various appointments for them—including massages. At no time did Sarah recruit young girls for Epstein or Maxwell.”

In March 2020, a woman whose story is strikingly similar to Kellen’s filed a lawsuit against Epstein’s estate under the pseudonym Jane Doe, alleging she “was a naïve and uniquely vulnerable 22-year old when Epstein and Maxwell first preyed upon her.”

The complaint said Epstein exploited Doe “over the course of many years” and that he knew she was “an extremely emotionally vulnerable young woman who, at the time she met him, had been entirely abandoned by her community, friends, and family which enabled him to seduce her into his world of horrific abuse.”

“Every aspect of her life was controlled by Epstein,” the suit alleged. “He dominated her psychologically. Jane Doe was constantly emotionally bullied and coerced by Epstein, including being required to submit to his constant sexual abuse.”

The complaint added that Doe’s “name and reputation has been ruined,” and “she is virtually bankrupt, having been forced to spend most of her resources defending herself against false accusations, all of which stem from Epstein’s crimes.”

In a filing last July, Doe’s lawyer Daniel Kaiser said that despite the abuse Doe suffered, “there are some who have mercilessly disparaged Jane Doe and even threatened her with death.” (Kaiser did not return a message seeking comment.)

Court papers reveal Doe submitted a claim to the Epstein Victims’ Compensation Program victims’ fund but didn’t receive a settlement offer or otherwise accept one. At a hearing last August, Kaiser said Doe’s claim “was not successful” and that the program’s administrator “was very explicit with me on the phone how politics, you know, restrained her and entered into what she did or didn’t do with my client.”

Records show that weeks before Maxwell’s trial kicked off on Nov. 29, Doe settled her lawsuit with Epstein’s estate.

Edwards said that Kellen applied to the victims’ compensation fund but still hasn’t come forward to help other victims of the financier’s sexual pyramid scheme.

“She’s been given ample opportunity to help victims and flat out refused,” Edwards told us. “If she told the truth and provided evidence, then it would destroy Ghislaine. There is no help whatsoever that she could ever provide Ghislaine.”

According to Edwards, Kellen has “more evidence and information of who the bad guys all were and what their conduct was that would assist the prosecutors, that would assist all of the victims, and that would help to bring closure to hundreds if not a thousand victims.”

In the Maxwell prosecution, Kellen could have made the choice to “cooperate with the government completely, tell them everything that you know, and assist in prosecution of their case without having any deal on the table—but just knowing it’s the right thing to do and hope that the level of substantial assistance that you provide is great enough where they will show lenience or mercy.”

Had she done so, Edwards said, he knows victims who would have come to court and asked prosecutors to show “extraordinary leniency” for finally helping them.

Edwards views Kellen as someone positioned one rung under Maxwell in the Epstein trafficking operation. “There came a point in time when Ghislaine got smarter and started putting buffers up and one of the buffers she put in place was Sarah.”

“Sarah is the easiest person to get whether she testifies or not, and yet she’s holding out hope that somebody will forget about her,” Edwards added. “To me, the best way for her to be forgotten is to be remembered as the person who grew a conscience at some point in time and turned around and helped.”

Edwards said that while Kellen has never aided victims’ civil lawsuits, he plans to file new ones and she will soon have an opportunity “to figure out where she wants to be aligned—either with the victims or against them.”

“While she wants to stake out some middle ground, there just isn’t one,” he said.

For her part, Kellen has never spoken publicly about her time in Epstein’s orbit. In 2013, she married 38-year-old NASCAR driver Brian Vickers, whose Instagram page showed the couple traveling in Italy, Greece, Austria and Japan, and whose racing website says he supports a group called Families Against Cult Teachings and Abuses.

Records show the couple has homes in Miami Beach, Florida, and Manhattan, New York. When a reporter approached her outside her $4-million luxury pad in December 2020, Kellen said, “I’ve been made out to be such a monster—but it’s not true. I’m a victim of Jeffrey Epstein.” She added, “I was raped and abused weekly.”

As The Daily Beast previously reported, multiple survivors of Epstein’s trafficking operation have filed lawsuits in recent years naming Kellen as one assistant who would summon them to the sex-offender’s bedroom to be sexually abused.

And, almost two decades ago, Palm Beach police nearly charged Kellen in connection to Epstein’s sex crimes. A review of a 2006 probable cause affidavit indicates that cops were prepared to charge her with two different felonies: four counts of first-degree unlawful sexual activity with a minor, and one count of lewd and lascivious molestation.

The affidavit said that when young victims arrived at Epstein’s Florida home, they were first introduced to Kellen, “Epstein’s assistant, who in turn would record their telephone numbers and name.” Victims described following Kellen upstairs to a massage room, where she’d set up a table with sheets and oils and informed them Epstein would be in soon.

Kellen also called the girls to book them for “massage” appointments when Epstein was in town, during which they were molested or raped and afterward handed a few hundred dollars.

At Maxwell’s trial, Carolyn said she visited Epstein’s mansion starting when she was 14 in 2001 until she turned 18 and became “too old” for him. She testified that during the first year or two, Maxwell would call her to schedule the abuse. Eventually Kellen would phone her or she’d contact Epstein’s estate herself, “because I was young and $300 was a lot of money to me.”

In recent years, other victims have pegged Kellen as a recruiter.

Teresa Helm, who was 22 when Epstein assaulted her in 2002, told The Daily Beast that Kellen was the first person she met from Epstein's world. Then a massage student in California, Helm took a walk with Kellen near the Santa Monica Pier and the assistant offered her the chance to become a wealthy individual’s traveling masseuse. “I was a human baton and Sarah had the biggest hand in passing me along to Ghislaine,” Helm said.

Helm says Kellen arranged for her to fly to New York to meet Maxwell, who then sent her to Epstein’s New York townhouse to provide him with a “massage.”

“It’s facilitating the abuse,” Helm said of Kellen. “You may as well be an abuser if you're knowing it’s happening and doing nothing. Will they go after her? Is she next?”

“For me personally, she is No. 1 on my ‘next’ list.”

Helm is among the chorus of survivors asking for Kellen to be held accountable.

Marijke Chartouni, a former model who says Epstein assaulted her in New York in 2000 when she was 20, said that his and Maxwell’s “lieutenants carry their share of responsibility in perpetrating these countless sex trafficking crimes.”

What degree of responsibility they carry, she added, has yet to be determined. “Is it the same as Maxwell? Epstein? Or were they themselves in such a controlling environment that they became blind to the morals that they had set aside?” she said.

“The only way to answer these questions is to daylight the facts and let these people be tried,” she added. “Sarah Kellen, and all her co-conspirators, must be brought to trial, for her sake, and the sake of her victims. Without this, it is inevitable that this type of abuse will continue.”

Kellen isn’t the only alleged co-conspirator accused of enabling Epstein. Victims have filed lawsuits naming Lesley Groff, a 55-year-old former executive assistant to the financier, as someone who booked their travel or appointments with Epstein. She has denied any wrongdoing in connection to her erstwhile boss.

Groff’s name also surfaced a few times at the Maxwell trial—including during the testimony of Epstein’s pilots, who said she scheduled flights—but she wasn’t called to the stand. Her spokeswoman told The Daily Beast she had been cooperative with prosecutors.

After the Maxwell verdict, Groff’s lawyers released a statement claiming Manhattan federal prosecutors would not file an indictment against her. They also said that two accusers had dropped lawsuits naming her as an enabler of Epstein’s abuse.

“After a more than two-year investigation by the Department of Justice into Jeffrey Epstein’s conduct, which included lengthy interviews of witnesses and a thorough review of relevant communications, we have been informed that no criminal charges will be brought against Lesley Groff,” the attorneys Michael Bachner and Jon Whitcomb said.

“As part of Epstein’s professional office staff,” they concluded, “Lesley never witnessed anything improper or illegal.”
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steve2^4 · Feb 19, 2022

I'm sure it wasn't accidental.

Mirah · Feb 19, 2022

I say good riddence to these bastards, but also its shameful

steve2^4 · Feb 19, 2022

Except for Ghislaine. I want her to be sentenced to just community service. At my house.

Elwood · Feb 20, 2022

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Tuckerfan · Jun 23, 2022

Prosecutors want 30 years.

Prosecutors Ask That Ghislaine Maxwell Spend at Least 30 Years in Prison

Federal prosecutors in Manhattan, writing that Ghislaine Maxwell had made the choice to conspire with Jeffrey Epstein for years, “working as partners in crime and causing devastating harm to vulnerable victims,” asked a judge on Wednesday night to sentence her to at least 30 years in prison.

Ms. Maxwell, 60, is to be sentenced on Tuesday in Federal District Court in Manhattan. If the judge follows the government’s recommendation, she could spend much of the rest of her life in prison.

Ms. Maxwell was convicted on Dec. 29 on five of the six counts she faced, including sex trafficking, after a monthlong trial in which witnesses testified that she helped Mr. Epstein recruit, groom and abuse underage girls.

Ms. Maxwell’s lawyers, in a brief last week, asked the judge, Alison J. Nathan, to impose a sentence below the 20 years recommended by the court’s probation department. The lawyers suggested that the government had decided to prosecute Ms. Maxwell after Mr. Epstein’s jailhouse suicide in 2019 to appease his victims and “repair the tarnished reputations” of the Justice Department and the Bureau of Prisons, in whose custody the disgraced financier died.

The defense also suggested that blame for Ms. Maxwell’s conduct lay with Mr. Epstein and her father, the late British media magnate Robert Maxwell, who they said was a cruel and intimidating parent.

The government, in its letter on Wednesday to Judge Nathan, dismissed those claims, asserting that if anything stood out from Ms. Maxwell’s sentencing submission, it was her failure to address her criminal conduct and her “utter lack of remorse.”

“Instead of showing even a hint of acceptance of responsibility,” the office of Damian Williams, the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York, wrote, “the defendant makes a desperate attempt to cast blame wherever else she can.”

The prosecutors said Ms. Maxwell’s attempt “to cast aspersions on the government for prosecuting her, and her claim that she is being held responsible for Epstein’s crimes, are both absurd and offensive.”

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“Maxwell was an adult who made her own choices,” the government added. “She made the choice to sexually exploit numerous underage girls.”

Ms. Maxwell’s trial focused primarily on events from 1994 to 2004, a period when she and Mr. Epstein recruited girls for him to abuse, prosecutors charged. The government presented its case over 10 days, through 24 witnesses. They included four women, all now adults, whose cases were at the center of the indictment.

Two of the women testified that Mr. Epstein began engaging in sex with them when they were only 14. Ms. Maxwell was sometimes present in the encounters, one woman testified; the other said Ms. Maxwell had directly molested her by touching her breasts.

In the government’s sentencing brief, prosecutors said Mr. Epstein could not have committed his crimes without Ms. Maxwell, who provided a “cover of respectability to Epstein that lulled the victims and their families into a false sense of security.”

Indeed, the government said, Ms. Maxwell worked with Mr. Epstein to select victims who she knew were vulnerable to exploitation — girls from families struggling to make ends meet, the daughters of single-mother households, the child of a drug addict.

“Maxwell’s conduct was shockingly predatory,” the prosecutors said.

Money was also a key theme underlying her criminal conduct, according to the government brief. Her access to wealth, the prosecutors wrote, enabled Ms. Maxwell to present herself “as a supposedly respectable member of society, who rubbed shoulders with royalty, presidents and celebrities.”

“That same wealth dazzled the girls from struggling families who became the defendant and Epstein’s victims,” the prosecutors said.

The memo said it was difficult to capture in words the harm Ms. Maxwell caused her victims.

“They were children who experienced what can only be described as a recurring nightmare: again and again, they found themselves alone with Maxwell and Epstein in terrifying mansions where they were sexually abused and physically violated,” the prosecutors wrote.

Mr. Epstein, 66, was found dead in his cell in August 2019, a month after he was arrested on sex-trafficking charges. An indictment accused him of sexually exploiting and abusing dozens of underage girls at his estate in Palm Beach, Fla., his mansion in Manhattan and other locations. He had also paid some of his victims to recruit additional girls to be abused, maintaining “a steady supply of new victims,” the indictment said.

Ms. Maxwell was arrested in July 2020 in New Hampshire, where, the authorities said, she was hiding. She was brought to New York and has been held without bail ever since.

Ms. Maxwell’s lawyers argued last week in their submission to the judge that she deserved leniency for enduring extreme jail conditions since her arrest. For 22 months, her lawyers said, she was locked in a small isolation cell and was monitored constantly by video cameras.

But the prosecutors said her complaints only highlighted “the vast gulf” between the conditions of her confinement and her “lived experience,” which they depicted as one of “extraordinary privilege,” a luxurious lifestyle of mansions, chefs on staff and private planes.

“It is no wonder, then, that she found jail jarring,” the prosecutors wrote. “Going from being waited on hand and foot to incarceration is undoubtedly a shocking and unpleasant experience.”
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Steal Your Face · Jun 23, 2022

Tuckerfan said: ↑

Prosecutors want 30 years.

Prosecutors Ask That Ghislaine Maxwell Spend at Least 30 Years in Prison

Federal prosecutors in Manhattan, writing that Ghislaine Maxwell had made the choice to conspire with Jeffrey Epstein for years, “working as partners in crime and causing devastating harm to vulnerable victims,” asked a judge on Wednesday night to sentence her to at least 30 years in prison.

Ms. Maxwell, 60, is to be sentenced on Tuesday in Federal District Court in Manhattan. If the judge follows the government’s recommendation, she could spend much of the rest of her life in prison.

Ms. Maxwell was convicted on Dec. 29 on five of the six counts she faced, including sex trafficking, after a monthlong trial in which witnesses testified that she helped Mr. Epstein recruit, groom and abuse underage girls.

Ms. Maxwell’s lawyers, in a brief last week, asked the judge, Alison J. Nathan, to impose a sentence below the 20 years recommended by the court’s probation department. The lawyers suggested that the government had decided to prosecute Ms. Maxwell after Mr. Epstein’s jailhouse suicide in 2019 to appease his victims and “repair the tarnished reputations” of the Justice Department and the Bureau of Prisons, in whose custody the disgraced financier died.

The defense also suggested that blame for Ms. Maxwell’s conduct lay with Mr. Epstein and her father, the late British media magnate Robert Maxwell, who they said was a cruel and intimidating parent.

The government, in its letter on Wednesday to Judge Nathan, dismissed those claims, asserting that if anything stood out from Ms. Maxwell’s sentencing submission, it was her failure to address her criminal conduct and her “utter lack of remorse.”

“Instead of showing even a hint of acceptance of responsibility,” the office of Damian Williams, the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York, wrote, “the defendant makes a desperate attempt to cast blame wherever else she can.”

The prosecutors said Ms. Maxwell’s attempt “to cast aspersions on the government for prosecuting her, and her claim that she is being held responsible for Epstein’s crimes, are both absurd and offensive.”

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“Maxwell was an adult who made her own choices,” the government added. “She made the choice to sexually exploit numerous underage girls.”

Ms. Maxwell’s trial focused primarily on events from 1994 to 2004, a period when she and Mr. Epstein recruited girls for him to abuse, prosecutors charged. The government presented its case over 10 days, through 24 witnesses. They included four women, all now adults, whose cases were at the center of the indictment.

Two of the women testified that Mr. Epstein began engaging in sex with them when they were only 14. Ms. Maxwell was sometimes present in the encounters, one woman testified; the other said Ms. Maxwell had directly molested her by touching her breasts.

In the government’s sentencing brief, prosecutors said Mr. Epstein could not have committed his crimes without Ms. Maxwell, who provided a “cover of respectability to Epstein that lulled the victims and their families into a false sense of security.”

Indeed, the government said, Ms. Maxwell worked with Mr. Epstein to select victims who she knew were vulnerable to exploitation — girls from families struggling to make ends meet, the daughters of single-mother households, the child of a drug addict.

“Maxwell’s conduct was shockingly predatory,” the prosecutors said.

Money was also a key theme underlying her criminal conduct, according to the government brief. Her access to wealth, the prosecutors wrote, enabled Ms. Maxwell to present herself “as a supposedly respectable member of society, who rubbed shoulders with royalty, presidents and celebrities.”

“That same wealth dazzled the girls from struggling families who became the defendant and Epstein’s victims,” the prosecutors said.

The memo said it was difficult to capture in words the harm Ms. Maxwell caused her victims.

“They were children who experienced what can only be described as a recurring nightmare: again and again, they found themselves alone with Maxwell and Epstein in terrifying mansions where they were sexually abused and physically violated,” the prosecutors wrote.

Mr. Epstein, 66, was found dead in his cell in August 2019, a month after he was arrested on sex-trafficking charges. An indictment accused him of sexually exploiting and abusing dozens of underage girls at his estate in Palm Beach, Fla., his mansion in Manhattan and other locations. He had also paid some of his victims to recruit additional girls to be abused, maintaining “a steady supply of new victims,” the indictment said.

Ms. Maxwell was arrested in July 2020 in New Hampshire, where, the authorities said, she was hiding. She was brought to New York and has been held without bail ever since.

Ms. Maxwell’s lawyers argued last week in their submission to the judge that she deserved leniency for enduring extreme jail conditions since her arrest. For 22 months, her lawyers said, she was locked in a small isolation cell and was monitored constantly by video cameras.

But the prosecutors said her complaints only highlighted “the vast gulf” between the conditions of her confinement and her “lived experience,” which they depicted as one of “extraordinary privilege,” a luxurious lifestyle of mansions, chefs on staff and private planes.

“It is no wonder, then, that she found jail jarring,” the prosecutors wrote. “Going from being waited on hand and foot to incarceration is undoubtedly a shocking and unpleasant experience.”
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That's the least she should get, but I suppose that is a life sentence.

matthunter · Jun 28, 2022

20 years for Ghislaine.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-61970358

Steal Your Face · Jun 28, 2022

Why won’t the DOJ release the list of people who flew on Lolita express to Epstein’s sex island?

MikeH92467 · Jun 28, 2022

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Why won’t the DOJ release the list of people who flew on Lolita express to Epstein’s sex island?
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Be careful what you wish for...

Steal Your Face · Jun 28, 2022

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Why won’t the DOJ release the list of people who flew on Lolita express to Epstein’s sex island?
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Be careful what you wish for...
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Why? I wasn’t there.

Ten Lubak · Jun 28, 2022

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Why won’t the DOJ release the list of people who flew on Lolita express to Epstein’s sex island?
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Be careful what you wish for...
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Why? I wasn’t there.
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You're underage, you would have been one of the trafficked prostitutes

MikeH92467 · Jun 28, 2022

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MikeH92467 said: ↑

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Why won’t the DOJ release the list of people who flew on Lolita express to Epstein’s sex island?
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Be careful what you wish for...
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Why? I wasn’t there.
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Work on it...you'll figure out what I mean...

MikeH92467 · Jun 28, 2022

In Gordon Liddy's memoir he wrote that his dirty tricksters had obtained Xavier Hollander's (The Happy Hooker) trick book from her days as a Washington D.C. hoor. After reviewing it Liddy wrote that everyone agreed that it was best to make sure it didn't get out based on the doctrines of "Mutual Assured Destruction" and "Balance of Terror"...

Steal Your Face · Jun 28, 2022

MikeH92467 said: ↑

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Why won’t the DOJ release the list of people who flew on Lolita express to Epstein’s sex island?
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Be careful what you wish for...
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Why? I wasn’t there.
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Work on it...you'll figure out what I mean...
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I figured it out from the get go. You think that I care we find out Trump was there, I don’t care. Why don’t I care? I repeat myself once again for the Sleepy Joe crowd, say it with me, I didn’t vote for Trump.

Ten Lubak · Jun 28, 2022

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Be careful what you wish for...
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Why? I wasn’t there.
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Work on it...you'll figure out what I mean...
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I figured it out from the get go. You think that I care we find out Trump was there, I don’t care. Why don’t I care? I repeat myself once again for the Sleepy Joe crowd, say it with me, I didn’t vote for Trump.
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Sounds like you have Trump Derangement Syndrome, no one even mentioned him here except you

MikeH92467 · Jun 28, 2022

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Be careful what you wish for...
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Why? I wasn’t there.
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Work on it...you'll figure out what I mean...
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I figured it out from the get go. You think that I care we find out Trump was there, I don’t care. Why don’t I care? I repeat myself once again for the Sleepy Joe crowd, say it with me, I didn’t vote for Trump.
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I'll say it again...I didn't ask who you voted for. I would like to know if you think he was better than Hillary.

Quincunx · Jun 28, 2022

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Why won’t the DOJ release the list of people who flew on Lolita express to Epstein’s sex island?
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The purpose of the DOJ is to investigate and prosecute alleged violations of U.S. law. That's it. They're not going to release any information merely to satisfy the public's appetite for salacious gossip.

Steal Your Face · Jun 28, 2022

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Why? I wasn’t there.
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Work on it...you'll figure out what I mean...
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I figured it out from the get go. You think that I care we find out Trump was there, I don’t care. Why don’t I care? I repeat myself once again for the Sleepy Joe crowd, say it with me, I didn’t vote for Trump.
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Sounds like you have Trump Derangement Syndrome, no one even mentioned him here except you
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Let’s follow the logic. Mike thinks I wouldn’t want to know who’s on the client list. Why wouldn’t I want to know that? We know of two former Presidents who flew on that plane, Trump and Clinton. The board knows I’m no Clinton fan and they believe me to be a Trump supporter, you believe this as well. When I say I didn’t vote for Trump nobody believes me so the logical conclusion from Mike’s perspective is that I wouldn’t want Trump’s name to be on that list. So I went ahead and jumped to that conclusion rather than wasting my time with trying to pry answers out of Mike when I know he would just do a Garamet routine and dodge the question. If I’m wrong with my assumptions, he’s free to correct me.

Ten Lubak · Jun 28, 2022

Quincunx said: ↑

Federal Farmer said: ↑

Why won’t the DOJ release the list of people who flew on Lolita express to Epstein’s sex island?
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The purpose of the DOJ is to investigate and prosecute alleged violations of U.S. law. That's it. They're not going to release any information merely to satisfy the public's appetite for salacious gossip.
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What about the public's salacious appetite for knowledge of political and important figures that dictate how we live our lives while they engage in illegal sex with minors and/or human trafficking ?

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