Jimmy Carter isn't a wimp

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    Carter on New Year's Eve, 1977
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    That's the night he gave his Island of Stability speech. The Islamic fundies who came to power in 1979 are human garbage, but the Shah of Iran wasn't exactly a shining star, either, and Carter said that there was no other place he'd rather be on New Year's Eve, than with the Shah. I have to think that if most Americans knew what the Shah was up to (with CIA help, I might add) they'd probably not want very much to do with Iran at all.
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    Quarantine your ass.
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    No thanks. You're as wimpy as Jimmy Carter.
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    It’s not an invitation you nasty-ass bastard.
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    And why are you stumbling over your dick into this thread to defend Trump?
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    Fair point, but if we're drawing comparisons, the same was true of Reagan.

    Well that's not fair.

    Reagan's foreign policy was based on outright corruption.
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    He’s about to go.

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    I was posting this elsewhere on the web, and I couldn’t help but notice that autocomplete on my phone added “Jimmy” right after I typed “former President.
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    I wonder if the office of U.S. President has ever been held by someone who was a more all-around good human being than Jimmy Carter.
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    The Onion (from 2017, but still relevant)

    https://www.theonion.com/the-american-presidency-1819594247

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    Jimmy Carter is proof a good man is hampered by becoming president rather than empowered to do good. Trump is proof a pathetic failure of an evil orange slime is empowered by the presidency to destroy the judicial system.

    Perhaps it is not the people becoming president that is the problem, but the presidency and government of the US itself that empowers the worst of us while hamstringing good people?
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    Carter had a lot of faults (see his dealings with the Shah of Iran, for example, if Carter hadn't been the Shah's friend, the Iranian Revolution might not have gone full-fundamentalist Islam) but there's one thing that he did for global peace no one talks about. He basically ended Kissinger's career as a government advisor. Prior to Jimmy, it didn't matter the politics of the administration, Kissinger was there, telling them how to commit genocide. Carter shut him out, and everyone else basically followed suit. The closest he got was hanging with Hillary, but I doubt if even she would have given him a role in her administration.
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    Not a very good President, but a great human being. Will be a sad day when he passes.
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    Jimmy Carter’s Climate Crusade: Ahead of His Time

    When I mentioned to my mother that Jimmy was going into hospice care to my mother the other day, she pointed out that when my aunt Dorothy was ~98, she went into hospice care. That was almost three years ago. She's still alive and doing incredibly well. Not only has she survived COVID (she had a mild case after getting vaccinated) but she fell and broke her hip, and it took a couple of hours for her to be discovered after it happened (I'd be suing, but that's another matter). She's fully recovered and does incredibly well for a person who's over 100. No loss of her mental faculties and she still takes care of herself most of the time (needing only a little help for certain daily activities).
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    I dunno, I think he was sort of like the Bob Rae premiership of Ontario... a good leader hamstrung by the mess he'd inherited from his predecessors and overshadowed by the sound and fury of his successor.
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    He did many good things for the world and I am happy for his influence over it. I hope his passing is serene.
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    I'm really sick of that particular line of damning with faint praise. Now with the perspective that time gives, his presidency is being reevaluated. The fact that so many regard him as a failed president says more about us (collectively) than him. At least he lived long enough to see the arc of history beginning to bend toward justice for him.
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    I thought florida was purgatory with all the old farts and future darwinners waiting to move on?
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    We have giant lizards jumping out of our lakes and pulling people down into a painful bone crunching bleeding to death drowning. We have people who eat your fucking face after going to a sports bar with their family. We have florida man. Donald trump has settled his shitty festering ass as a puss filled sack on the dick of america. We are america's swinging dick. We have red tide all over our sloppy sand. The sun is three feet away from our heads in the summer, and most of the year. We are where most spring beak teenagers want to go because debauchery is our fucking thing. This place invented the pineapple as a suppository.

    Look at Rick Scott. This state isn't even hiding the fact they have sent a fucking zombie to congress. We put Ron Desantis in charge of our state to torture our state workers and teachers for their service. Who else but evil would do that shit? We have burning hot sands that force you to run to the cool water where there are jellyfish, sharks, and red tide, and if you go into the fresh water we have alligators and brain eating amoebas.

    This is Hell. The only thing I do not understand is why australia tries to beat us in hellscape. Who the fuck would play golf in the middle of all this crazy?
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    I'll see your Rick Scott and raise you a Doug Ford/Ford Nation (seriously, you'll want to look this one up).
    But yeah, we only get that sort of stuff when it's warm here, and thankfully with a lot less access to firearms.

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    The @NavalAcademy's Maury Hall - named after Matthew Fontaine Maury, a naval officer who joined the Confederates - has a new name.

    The building now honors former president of the U.S., Jimmy Carter, a 1946 Naval Academy graduate. #WhoseHeritage

    https://twitter.com/splcenter/status/1629541776364019714
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    Carter has reportedly asked Biden to give the eulogy ask his funeral.
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    He’s not dead yet!
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    I just want to point out that for the first time in our lives we live in a world with Jimmy Carter and NOT Pat Robertson!!!
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    Yes, I suppose it's always fun and good to celebrate the death of a fellow human being. Proud of yourself yet or just looking for updoots?
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    Except that Pat Roberston was well and truly a terrible person, and we're better off without him.
    Much like other historical figures who overstayed their welcome.
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