Reactionary Radical Eliminationists vs. Trans

Discussion in 'The Red Room' started by Nova, Feb 1, 2023.

  1. Nyx

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    This is what I want cisgender people to understand. I know most of you do, but for the ones who are a little stubborn in the brain pan:

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    Visualize with me:

    All of your life, you've always felt a little "off." As a child, you liked some things that as a boy or a girl you weren't "supposed" to like, if you came from most families, and so you buried those behaviors and accepted your parents viewpoints because they were your parents, they wouldn't lead you astray.

    As you get older, you start to notice things about yourself you don't like. Maybe it's major things, like you don't want a penis, or breasts feel like they don't belong on you, or perhaps it's more minor things like you see the color pink your mom picked for your room because "girls like pink" and want to vomit, or you like stuffed animals instead of football your dad says is what every boy likes.

    That's how it can start. Some folks don't experience that, but many trans people have.

    So, say you become an adult, like myself, and if you haven't figured it out yet, you've probably buried it so deep that it will take a trigger to actually bring it to the forefront. Like when you joke and say "don't we all fantasize about being a girl?" and your male compatriots all look at you like you've grown a second head because "no, man, who wants to be a girl?" which leads to questions. It leads to self-examinations, it leads to looking at yourself in the mirror and crying because you feel like someone put you in the wrong body, that the feelings you had as a child start to become more and more pronounced until they're loud enough to make you aware that you're not right. That something is very wrong. It didn't take any book, TV show, or even the internet to tell you this, you've realized this on your own.

    What the TV show, book, or internet has done, though, is provided you a window into a world you've ignored for a long time. It allows you to communicate with others, sending and receiving signals that help you explore further than you thought you could, learning more about yourself, and where you differ from others. If you're fortunate and live in an area where it's not taboo, you can express yourself further, learning more and more about whether this is a part of who you are, and who you can be. If you're not fortunate, like so many of us aren't, you realize that your little corner of society sees you as a pervert, as someone undesirable, nasty, evil, a cancer on society. They equate your mere existence with criminality.

    You are literally a criminal for being alive. You haven't hurt anyone. You don't want to hurt anyone. You just want to live openly and explore that part of yourself you have long denied, and yet you may become homeless, unemployed, denied basic rights, and even murdered, just because who you are inside doesn't match who you're told you have to be on the outside. You live in a prison of your own body, and people mock you for it, they make cruel assumptions about you and call it a joke. They tell you to lighten up, it's not that serious, while your fellow trans folks are assaulted, murdered, and even hunted in some countries, and you know where you live has only a thin veneer of civility and order sitting on top of that possible future.

    None of us asked for this. Aside from some opportunists who see a chance to use our identity as a means to paint us all with the same brush, none of us are trying to hurt anybody just by existing.
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    I would also apply this sort of thing to bisexuality or being pansexual. Things are going to come out as we gain freedom and experience with GLBT issues. As silly as it sounds I never really realized there was a scale in trans until I got more experience. There are still people out there on the trans side who will say you are not trans if you are not always working towards a sex change. There is being transgendered without being transexual.

    The claims that people are making others trans or gay is false. They were always capable of being that way, but the options were not given to them, and that is a shame. Think of what those people missed out on. It is called happiness. Maybe one of those weird crushes I had on my guy friends in high school could have been something really great in my life had we been open to it? Some guy might have been happy if he had been able to wear a goiwn to his prom, but he is cool being a guiy most of the rest of the time. The only reason they don't do it is to satisfy a republican.
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    The ones ginning the hate and fear up don't even believe it though.
    The whole thing is "look over there!! Trans people!!" *shovels money into private education, and impregnates a teenager* :calli: :?:
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  4. Nyx

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    Exactly. So much of sexuality and gender is a spectrum.

    Some of us won't transition because surgery (especially in the US) is prohibitively expensive. Hell, that kind of surgery is scary anyway! For others, if they were AMAB (assigned male at birth) and after 40 years they've gotten used to having a penis, they might want to keep it and change everything else. I mean, hell, after that amount of time, it would be like having phantom limb syndrome, you know? None of that is unreasonable at all.

    Gender really is fluid, and I think the world would be a much better place if people got to explore theirs without the stigma of others who feel perfectly fine in their own skin deeming their judgments as God's law or the Law of Nature (as if most of them know anything about biology besides the middle school class they slept through).
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    No, unless you live in the middle east, you are not a criminal for being alive, you melodramatic twat.
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  6. Diacanu

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    The Uncle Albert Story.
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    Don't worry @Amaris he is just mad that @Jenee is flirting with me today. I am wondering what I did today to make her want me. I am pretty sure I didn't beat her, or become a toxic male ginger. I don't even ride a bike or want a brokedick jeep. I know the words most used to describe me are adorable and cute, but back off bitch, this kittle will gum the fuck out of you.

    Sorry, no that was not an offer, I just don't have teeth anymore so please don't rape me.
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  8. Nyx

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    Who asked you? I certainly didn't. I know this because I'd never ask you for an opinion on what I've experienced and what my trans sisters, brothers, and enbies have experienced. I mean, that would be like asking a white guy his thoughts on black liberation. Only a fucking moron who valued the sound of his own voice would think he would have any right to step in like his opinion had any weight whatsoever in such a matter that doesn't concern him at all.

    So, you know, shove it up your ass, Albert. Take your opinions back to Stormfront and gargle a stick of dynamite.
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    What you don't know is UA always gargles sticks of dyhnamite because he is a real man and he isn't performing by adhering to stupid toxic masculinity like transwomen are pretending to be female by doing things women do.

    If I spent as much energy trying to be a woman as UA, FF, and the rest of the repugs spend trying to be real men, I would have cloned and self installed my own uterus by now. God damn, UA is the sort of guy who punches himself in the face to play man, while Ken is more masculine than he could ever know how to be. If Tucker Carlson told UA a real man can hold his breath for 15 minutes UA would be dead from erotic self asphyxiation.
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  10. Diacanu

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    No way UA was the bully in school.
    He was a goth that didn't have the guts to put on the costume, and risk a beating.
    He's a still a goth. Viking plague ship ghost goth instead of vampire goth, but goth.
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  11. Nyx

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    UA's lack of knowledge could fill the Library of Alexandria, but setting it on fire would be an act of salvation rather than sacrifice, because the less we know of what UA thinks he knows, the better society will become.
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    I am pretty sure quantum particles cannot exist in the nothing inside of his skull.
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    Don’t transfer.
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    No, he is more like the guy who thinks utilikilts make him the highlander. I think @Jenee let that one slip. That means he probably fancies himself one of the scottish guys from braveheart. Those guys are the fucking worst. The first dragoncon I was at those guys were fighting all over the place drinking their cheap ass bud light. It was so bad I came into the room and stole our roommates really nice replica of Ichigo's sword from bleach and went out looking to sever some drunk highlander fans. There is nothing like confunk drunk ginger in wet leather skirt smell.

    Yes, those drunk ginger utilikilt wearing fuckheads often have a chubby useless twat of a girlfriend who seems to be overly fond of their male performance. It is a pretty common archetype of geek girl slut. I am beginning to understand more and more why @Jenee is jelly of me. Hon, it is not my fault your man has a wandering eye and lusts after a catgirl like me. It is him who would seem to be repressing his desire for a shemale to fully dominate his sorry ass. Yes, you should be worried he will leave you for me, but no I am not taking him.
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    I'll take that as you conceding the fact that you are not a criminal for being alive, and that you are, in fact, a melodramatic twat.
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    Your feelings are not knowledge, and the facts are not an attack on you.
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    If we blocked the signals from your amygdala, your mind would truly be empty.
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    electrons can't cross the non-event horizon of UA's cerebral abyss.
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    I think @Nova shared this story on Facebook back around the time it started getting circulated, but here's the letter this nutbag supposedly sent.

    Mentions "tyranny" nine times, as if he actually knows what the word means. :dayton:

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    College Station, Texas is one of the most conservative, Trump-loving places in the country so hats off to Olive Garden for hiring a waitperson like that (assuming the story is even true, which I doubt).
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    Your ignorance does not equal my knowledge. You dumb fuck.
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    "Daddy/daughter date".

    That's fucking creepier than a dozen folk in drag, right there.
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  22. Nyx

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    We have events like that in our town, and yeah, it is the creepiest, skeeviest shit.
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    Your feelings are not knowledge. A consensus of feelings agreeing with you is not knowledge. None of that constitutes factual evidence that you are criminalized for being alive. Like every other stunted, entitled child, you want your opinions accepted as fact, without challenge.
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    Your ignorance continues unabated.

    You would absolutely walk into a Black Panthers meeting, and tell everyone there that they should stop whining, and that no one's being discriminated against. You would, because you are that fucking unaware of what goes on around you that does not affect you personally. Only a fool would take anything you say as having value, because you and a fool have the same lack of knowledge, and therefore the same amount of confidence in your rightness.
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    What did he think he was protecting his daughter from?

    Sounds like the child needs protecting from parents who want to keep her from seeing the world as it is. I had parents like that. Possibly not to this extent (I say possibly because a question during a recent recounting of a memory raised the possibility that there may have been such draconian style protection).

    Either way, I've always resented both my parents for doing this as when I did get out into the world, I was so totally unprepared for living as an adult in this world. I had to learn everything and learn to accept others without judgement.

    My guess is, this girl is going to have similar experiences when she leaves her parent's house.
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    Your bluster doesn't negate the fact that you are not a criminal for existing.
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  27. Nyx

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    Again, just because you're unaware of what is going on doesn't mean it's reality to everyone else. For someone who speaks of other people's delusions you certainly live it every day.

    You don't even seek to learn, you just make a statement and expect that to be the end of it, the culmination of every mediocre white man's personality on the planet.
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    That's your gas tank empty then.

    Unless they're the Youtube audience for a dog-whistle Nazi.
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    Yeah, Albert would definitely side with the Nazis. I don't mean militarily, though, he's too much of a coward. I mean he would gladly inform on the underground as long as it was to his advantage. He has no imagination, no awareness outside of his bubble, and he can't be bothered to care except to try and forestall things that might interfere with whatever advantage he thinks he has. He can't even take a few moments to find out whether or not there are trans people around the world who are criminals for existing, or laws in the US that are trying to make it a crime to be trans.

    It's funny because even if I spent time trying to show him, he'd always find a reason why it wouldn't count, so he can't even conceive of the notion that his methodology is flawed, because he has no methodology. He is the epitome of the mediocre white man who is used to his feelings being the default, so that if anything he experiences doesn't match his feelings, it gets tossed out. He is the most sensitive poster here in terms of how his worldview must be supported.
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    This is the part of it that drives me nuts.
    When all us X-ers were kids, it was a-okay to laugh at gay people as a joke to not take seriously as even humans.
    Hell, it was encouraged.
    You look back at the casual homophobia in those old movies, and it's shameful and cringe as fuck.
    It's the homophobia version of the black face and mammy shit in the 30's-40's movies.

    Trans people are being laughed at as a joke in the same exact way in the dogshit media UA consumes.

    He's one year younger than me; he's lived through all this shit too; he saw all this shit; he knows the pattern; why is he so fucking blind to it now?
    He's falling for all the same stupid bag of tricks.
    :rolleyes:

    But...we've been over this with how the moral panic "think of the children!" shit is just like the Satanic Panic.
    He saw that shit too.
    Learned nothing, apparently.

    Guess he only cared about the heavy metal and porno parts of it, because it inconvenienced him.
    Fuck everyone else.
    Fuck all those innocent teachers that got locked up because quack shrinks coached kids to tell bullshit stories, and quack hypnotists implanted false memories.
    Oh well, sucks to be them!
    Better luck next re-incarnation!

    Don't fuck with Rick & Morty though!
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