Star Wars: Ahsoka

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  1. StarMan

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    I went into this knowing next to nothing - certainly not that it was a live-action follow up to Rebels.

    Watched both episodes. Can we just stay on Ray Stevenson and his apprentice's POV? I find them far more interesting.

    The good gals - they're a little boring and flat. I'm not a stranger to Ahsoka (have watched all of Clone Wars), but I'm not particularly engaged by this live-action version. Out of the main characters, I'd say Sabine has the most promise. Green General Lady is particularly bland - I don't know if that's how she came across in Rebels.

    Overall, a bit of a sluggish start. Obviously, Rebels fans will get a hell of a lot more out of this; while viewers like me can read a wiki or watch a recap, we still don't have the investment in the characters as those who watched the show. It's unfortunate, as it's apparent in several scenes you're meant to feel something as they make a callback or reference. I feel like I've walked into the middle of a conversation. But, at least got the intro out of the way and hopefully get going with the meat of the story.

    Just as a side: does it irk anyone else that we know where this all ends up? As the scene with the bad guys unlocking the map planet-side unfolded, I thought to myself how much I'd prefer it if everything ahead of this was an open canvas: Post-Empire and an unknown future. No Rey, whiny emo Solo, Palpatine somehow returned and so on locked in ...
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  2. Jenee

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    I thought the actor playing Hera was a bit flat as well. I mean, those are Hera’s words. I can hear her saying them. They’re just no … Hera behind them.
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  3. Spaceturkey

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    we're contemporaneous with Mando, yes? so about 12-13 ABY? I'm willing to let it slide for now as that'd mean she's in her mid 40s now, and not fighting a war... so no need to be quite as passionate as before. It'll be nice to see at some point though... there was a glimpse of it during the chase scene. Maybe they're going for her "carrying a deep sadness"?

    I still have problems with Jacen Syndulla though. Each season of Rebels was a year in universe. SHe and Kanan were unrequited, let alone unconsummated until they finally kissed just before the attack on Lothal. Unless they stopped for a quickie in the hour or so after he rescued her, they never had a chance to bang. Either that kid was conceived with his force ghost or his middle name is Rex.
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  4. Jenee

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    I always thought they had an ongoing relationship beginning before the first episode.
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  5. Raoul the Red Shirt

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    Hey, at least on the surface, he did more than he typically does when he links a vid:

    He gave an explanation for why someone might want to watch it -- and there are presumably others (like me) who haven't seen all the animated series who might want a recap.

    I haven't and probably won't watch the vid, but there's a better-than-average chance that the content provider ISN'T a barely concealed hatemonger or whining fanboy.
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  6. Raoul the Red Shirt

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    I don't really know anything about the animated series besides the broad strokes, most of which got touched on in these first two episodes: There's a big bad out there called Thrawn who was a big problem and the bad guys want to bring him back to serve as a rallying point, and the good guys want to stop them. Why is he gone? Why/how did the map "point" to where he is when it apparently had not been disturbed for ages and his disappearance is presumably just within the last 20-30 years? That doesn't really make sense to me, and dunno if there's some better explanation in the previous series, if this show will eventually explain it, or if I just need to shut up and enjoy some saber fights.

    I think there's a lot of runway between where we are now (Empire mostly in disarray, New Republic trying (and sometimes failing) to have a clue and get things done, a Jedi wayward knight and now an apprentice vs. a Sith master/knight and apprentice.) and the future as of Force Awakens. We don't know that Ahsoka and Sabine or any of the others are dead by TFA excluding any non-live action source, and even if we assume that they are, we don't know how or why. If Ahsoka helps patch up the messes left behind by the sequel trilogy, it will have done good work.
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  7. Steal Your Face

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    Only a douche bag would think that I or someone else has a flawless encyclopedic memory of all things Star Wars and hasn't seen the animated shows in a while and doesn't need a quick reminder of where the story is at this point because the show didn't provide us with an update. But you are no such douche bag.
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  8. Steal Your Face

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    It's no secret that Thrawn will show up, so I guess they're trying to explain how the First Order came to be. We don't know what happens to this group post Jedi so there's that. Presumably Ezra or Asoka kills Thrawn and Palpatine is (somehow) revived.
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  9. Spaceturkey

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    For me there may or may not have been something when they first joined up, but that they were platonic during the rebels years (and almost certainly in the final three months because otherwise Hera would've been showing a bit by the finale) based on the "about time" reactions when they did kiss before flying off to fate.
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    Is the sole purpose of Star Wars TV shows to justify the shitty Star Wars movies? Like these seem to be trying to explain and justify the ST. And the earlier cartoons seem to be trying to make the PT cool.
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  11. Jenee

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    I did get the impression they were having issues that last season. Kanan was going through a lot. And Hera too - being promoted to general and all. I got the impression they were still sleeping in the same bed, just didn’t have time for long talks - which women hate, and men seem to appreciate. Not to start an argument. It’s just the impression I got. Or .. maybe just my interpretation of events based on personal experience.
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  12. Spaceturkey

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    Okay, Hera felt a bit more like Hera.

    Episode was too short. I get that it's "the chapter"... but it was pretty lean. More of what Hera is dealing with could've filled up another 10-12 minutes.

    The CGI still isn't as good as it was in the other series. I hope they punch it up a bit after the full release because it sometimes sticks out glaringly.

    Sabine quoting Luke a couple of times was a good call back.
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  13. Jenee

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    I love the characters, but where is the story?!?!?
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    All the neck beards on the Internet complaining that lightsabre stabs don't kill anymore :lol:
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  15. Spaceturkey

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    not sure what you're looking for here? Seems they have told us everything they should've by this point and are moving right ahead to the next stages of a story's structure.
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  16. Jenee

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    It kinda felt like that episode of Andor where the episode is setting something up, then suddenly it’s over. If the writers need to do that, for television, cut those scenes short and have some story in the episode.
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  17. Steal Your Face

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    It's annoying. It's been what 30 + years since Qui-Gon, are there no medical advances in the Star Wars universe?
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    It’s a story. The story for Phantom Menace needed Qui-Gon to die. the story for Ahsoka needed Sabine to live.

    It’s that simple.
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    Finding it a bit prog rock concept album - enjoyable enough, but lots of noodling and winks. She said she'd always be a... ta-dum... Rebel! See what she did there? She was in Rebels! And Ashoka said... tish... Heir to the Empire! ZOMG! Swoon!

    It's like some kind of self-referential product placement.

    Kind of wishing it was actually about Ray Stevenson's character, who so far is a lot more interesting than Ashoka despite having a lot less screen time.

    Interested to see what they're doing with extragalactic threat, it'll be nice to have something a bit different from Imperials or Sith, and I was really happy to see the Sion was a ship rather than a Starwarsgate.
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  20. We Are Borg

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    Eh, the sequel trilogy wasn't as bad as a lot of nerds claim. The problem is that The Last Jedi tried to take a different direction and the nerds freaked out, so we got the Frankenstein's monster that was Rise of Skywalker. These are the same idiots who complained about The Force Awakens being too much like A New Hope, so I don't think even they know what the hell they want.

    And it's impossible to retcon the prequel trilogy into being cool. Clone Wars and Rebels were decent enough, but they still can't save the prequels.
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  21. Diacanu

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    If you had Deadpool and Miles Morales walking around in the background of the prequels doing verbal and physical-action comedy respectively, yes, that would totally fix things.
    But, they won't.
    :sigh:
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  22. Spaceturkey

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    yeah, that's one let down is that Ahsoka is coming across too stoic. There's no mischief to her...
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  23. Jenee

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    She had out grown that by the episode where she meets Rafa and Trace.
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  24. Steal Your Face

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    I'm starting to see where the complaints are coming from. Last week was action packed and now they slow to a screeching halt. These don't come off as the same characters either. The girl playing Sabine does okay, but I was expecting more from Rosario Dawson. Did Dave Filoni forget how the force works because Asoka should have sensed danger coming, but then again, I'm not sure if force users can sense droids. Anyway, she's in the realm between realms which I'm guessing that's where Ezra is and Thrawn is in the other galaxy. I hope Sabine has a plan.
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  25. Spaceturkey

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    not so much the trouble making teen type, but the wise (ass) twinkle in her eye type... like in that moment she saw grogu or even during Rebels when she's reunited with Rex. Matured I get, but I think that like Anakin, she's motivated by love... just a much healthier notion of it.
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    She dropped her defenses when Shin showed up without Sabine, then when Sabine did show up. She was sent to the world between worlds because she dropped her defenses when it appeared Sabine had lost to Shin.
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    Sequel trilogy didn't know what it wanted to be, just that Disney wanted three guaranteed money spinners and new merchandise opportunities. Basically Spaceballs: The Search for More Money.

    For all my criticisms of TLJ (worst space chase ever), it genuinely tried something new and move on from the Jedi being some kind of royalty (Ashoka has picked this up a little too) rather than the 'memberberries of TFA.

    Conceptually the shows have been hit and miss for me, but they're at least mining the wealth of possibilities out there, which is better than the last set of movies ever did.
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  28. Raoul the Red Shirt

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    Wait, did FF disagree with what his neckbeard overlords have posted on the Internet?
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  29. Spaceturkey

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    all that matters is more Carson Teva

    *and that at some point he says this

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  30. Jenee

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    Didn’t he die in the last episode?
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