Reactionary Radical Eliminationists vs. Trans

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  1. Uncle Albert

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    No, fuckhead. We're not playing that game. I'll answer for what I said, not for any extraneous bullshit you tack on.
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  2. Uncle Albert

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    Blah blah blah. Nobody cared because you weren't forcing your entitled demands of affirmation and validation on people or their children. There is no weaseling out of that.
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    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    Real People ran from 79-84 on NBC.
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  4. Crosis36

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    I'm still not sure what's being forced on children. I've got 4 kids in carrying levels of public Ed from primary to grad school, and I dint recall anything being forced on any of them.
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    I volunteered for junior achievement in a day a couple times.

    If anyone doesn’t know what that is, it’s a 4 hour, high level program to teach elementary age kids about owning a business. The first time was with … 1 or 2nd graders, the second time was 4th grade.

    Neither time did I get through all the materials.

    I honestly don’t know how elementary teachers teach 6 subjects in a day.

    You’ve got maybe 30 minutes in an hour to actually teach. The rest of the time is spent with bathroom breaks, recess, getting the kids back on track - you do have to ask questions and that always gets out of hand. Not to mention the in-fighting and as a temp, you have no way of knowing who dislikes who and why, but that absolutely has to be dealt with.

    Honestly, it’s insane. Like lunatics running the nuthouse kind of insane.

    I don’t remember that much chaos when I was in elementary. Perceptions are quite different i guess.

    Anyway, I really don’t see how teachers stay on any topic, let alone have time to be preaching about their personal politics.
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  6. Uncle Albert

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    Depends on the years, and what was disclosed to you.
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    NBC. :yes:

    One of the hosts, Byron Allen, went on to have his own talk show and production company which owns, among other things, The Weather Channel.

    AMG is on the verge of some pretty big layoffs, maybe as soon as next week. :(
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  8. Crosis36

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    I've also been a teacher, and still substitute teach in my spare time.
    Never heard of any coworkerstrying to indoctrinate anyone. Most of us were more concerned with getting the kids to actuality read something, anything.
    You have any examples of indoctrination? Any sample lesson plans? Any questionable content?
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  9. Uncle Albert

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  10. Nova

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    What public schools are doing, at least as far as elementary grades, is simply saying "people can be different. They may look different or speak different or worship different or have different customs or abilities... be kind anyway" and in many places they include in that "they may love differently or express themselves differently" (in whatever specific phrasing)

    They're NOT telling kids where the penis goes or "maybe you too think you're a girl" - only that they may know someone - a relative or a neighbor or a teacher or a classmate - who's different in some way... and they should BE KIND ANYWAY.

    And THAT is so massive an imposition on the moralist zealots (and you don't have to be religious to be a zealot) that they have to imagine lurid stories about "gay sex being taught to first graders" or some such because even they know deep down that they can't simply say "I'm against being kind to people!" even if every word out of their mouth proves that to be their actual position.
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  11. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    What they call indoctrination is very very simple. It goes like this:

    Gay and trans people exist and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. It's fine. Be kind."

    When they're worldview insists that it's NOT fine, then a contrary lesson constitutes indoctrination.

    What's bizarre is people like Albert who foreswear ANY interest in God, religion, advancing christian morals, or any of that shit - and yet STILL think the above message is objectionable. If it doesn't arise from religion, it can only arise from bigotry.
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    Let’s be honest here, teachers can and some will say any stupid thing that pops in their head - just like any other human.

    I remember stupid things my elementary teachers told us as if it were the honest to God’s truth.

    But, like most any thing any teacher says, most kids don’t listen or pay attention. Unless it has to do with the test, they don’t care.

    If you don’t want your kids to be a captive audience for someone you don’t trust, home school the little bastards. Put ‘em in public schools, you get what you’re given.

    Period.

    End of discussion.
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  13. Crosis36

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    Boy, let me tell you, sifting thru your posts was not high on my priority list today.
    You know where indoctrination comes from? On both sides of the aisle?
    YouTube. TikTok. Message boards like this one. No one learned about QAnon in school.
    So, if you're really worried about your kid bent indoctrinated (we'll, not your kids), then that really begins at home.
    But most people complaining about that dont really want to take that responsibility.
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    You might want to watch or listen to this episode of Jon Oliver then, because on the face of it, you're not wrong. But... :sigh:
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    anything i needed to know at age 10 about sex, I learned from my scoutmaster.
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    What, "A Scout is always prepared"?
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  17. Spaceturkey

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    "just don't tell anyone"
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    "Be kind" being code for "pander to every demand, hold to a lesser standard of accountability, NEVER mock or criticize."
    :brood:

    Yeah, I object to that. "Live and let live" is all human beings are allowed to impose on each other, and it is conditional.
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    It comes from those places as well, but if you don't think there are self-obsessed activist teachers out there shoving their politics at their captive audience of students, you are uninformed.
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  20. Diacanu

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    Nope.
    You're just a paranoid reactionary.
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  21. Diacanu

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    There are paranoid reactionary welders, but we don't close down welding shops.
    Republicans don't want public school fixed, they want it gone.
    Stop being a GOP dupe.
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  22. Uncle Albert

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    I'll weigh the opinion of someone who only sees the outside world in pictures, accordingly.
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    I don't want schools shut down. Stop obeying your "with us or against us" programming, assclown.
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  24. Diacanu

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    But you gleefully spout the propaganda of those that do.
    If that's not a dupe, it sure as fuck ain't being a rebel.
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  25. Steal Your Face

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    Oh so so you can say phrases like code for and dog whistle, but he can’t?
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  26. Diacanu

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    The proof of dog whistles is dogs hear the fucking whistles.
    No one's going all Jan 6 over "be kind".
    You know the difference.
    Stop trying to lawyer-troll; you suck at it.
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    I did have an economics teacher in high school tell me unions were evil organizations taking advantage of vulnerable workers. But that's about the only really overt propaganda I remember hearing in (counts fingers) almost two decades of education.
    Maybe I just got lucky.
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    I had a study hall teacher rant at the janitor about black people who are lazy and want entitlements.
    Didn't turn me into a Klan member or a Republican voter.
    :shrug:
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