“The young [trans] people who are so brave — I want you to know that your president has your back.”

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  1. Ancalagon

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    Earlier this evening the President of the United States explicitly recognized not only the existence of trans Americans in a nationally televised speech in front of a joint session of Congress but heralded their bravery.

    What effect do you think this will have? NBD or a watershed moment?
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  2. matthunter

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    Outcry from the GOP and FOX, naturally.

    Newt Gingrich called it anti-American and "attacking people of traditional values" just because Biden said embassies can fly the gay pride flag for Pride season.

    Public support for gay marriage is in the low 70% range. The folk Gingrich thinks are regular are actually the kids' meal.
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    Thanks for the lip service, but doing something as the fucking president might be nice. Oh, and where the fuck were you the past four friggen decades? I bet being trans was courageos back when you were a senator and VP and never said a fucking thing.

    Oh, and keep your hands to yourself and don't fucking sniff my hair. Come with me and I will teach you how to treat women with respect, and it certainly does not involve stickingf your finger in their pussy like you enjoy.

    Oh, and could we do something about those cages you built under the Obama admin? It is a bit of a bad look.

    Oh, and Trump is still just roaming about free as a fucking bird. Perhaps you could kick the justice department in the ass and get their prosecution moving?

    Oh, and asian people seem to be getting their ass kicked so you might want to do something about that.

    Now that you passed up an easy dunk on 15 dollar an hour minimum wage, could you tell us how you are going to get 10 republicans to vote for it?

    Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back uncle joe.
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    OK, you make some valid points but there are a few outright lies in here. I understand that you don't like Joe, but resorting to lies makes you no better than the Faux News Junkies out there.

    Lie #1. Joe Biden was the absolute FIRST politician as VP to openly and unequivocally state his support for lgbtq rights on national TV... including the right to get married. This action led to several other politicians voicing their support and I'd even go as far as saying that this moment helped mold broader support.

    not even the most rabid Faux News Junkie agrees with you on this. Tara Reade is simply not credible in this allegation. This one allegation in over 40 years of public service. And the one allegation that Joe Biden himself urged people to take seriously.


    It's been 100 days. There is a pandemic that he's handled well, IMHO and other issues. Give it time..... and BTW, I don't know if you heard, the DOJ raided Rudy's apartment yesterday.

    There is literally a bill in Congress that just passed the Senate that addresses this.

    I know people don't have the time or inclination to keep up with everything going on in DC, but there was a huge bit of news about this about a month or so ago. The Senate tried to get this passed through a process known as "budget reconciliation" and the Senate Parliamentarian ruled that they couldn't. Not the "slam dunk" you think it is. So yeah, we need 10 GOP Senators to agree. Are you insinuating that PJB sign an Executive Order to implement a $15 minimum wage? Because the next POTUS could just undo it with the stroke of a pen. It needs to go through Congress to make it solid.


    I respect your disapproval of PJB... but I can't respect outright lies and misinformation. You're better than this.
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  5. We Are Borg

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    No, she's not.
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  6. Tererune

    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    Oh my here comes the Biden Bros. Yes, I spoke bad about dear leader Biden and now I have to face the propaganda brigade on the left. At least the trumpistas tried to step away from their POS and weren't all about you have to love him or else.

    Dude, I lived through the shit. he wasn't fucking heard at all. It was a fucking peep. He could have used his position to make a real difference, but he was always soft on doing those sorts of things. I am sure we can find some quotes from him somewhere, but where was he as a senator when he could have been making a difference in the 90's?

    If you want to gloss over his excuses over opposing bussing and how he was the dog whistle that said it was ok to vote for the black guy because Joe is behind him, then fine. However, don't tell me how he was a great hero by following the movement instead of leading it. He was always behind. I do not see him making any executive orders to knock down the anti trans bills. Trump would at least try to throw out bullshit orders, but not joe. So kiss my faggot ass with your telling me how I should worship a whole lot of nothing.
    There are plenty of visual sniffing and molesting going on. Completely unprofessional actions that would get most normal people fired. Yes, Tara is credible, but not to the Biden Bros because they back their man just like Kavenaugh and Trumpistas. I have read up on Tara so I leave you to your Biden Bros Blindness Mr. Sycophant.

    Yay, can we put some of this slime behind bars before it dies of old age? Give me a fucking break, the DOJ is not the CDC. The government can multitask. this is 100 days of golf that trump should not have. I am getting tired of waiting, and I am seeing lazy old joe doing the same amount of nothing he promised in his campaign.
    There has to be a difference between tweeting incoherently every fucking day and barely saying anything when he could be saying something. But that is not Joe's style. He only gets up and says shit when corn pop is talking. Then he is a big tough guy with a lot to say. I wonder what the difference is?
    The senate parlimantarian? Who the fuck elected that person king? Give me a fucking break with all these excuses. Don't get me wrong, he is better than trump, but remember that was a really low bar. He is the typical republicrat. You cannot spell republicrat without rat.

    He cannot even get the old pre trump business tax rates back, and you are on his cock like melania at a billionaire party.
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  7. Steal Your Face

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    Stunning and brave.
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    Much of the transgender community doesn't believe him, and Charlotte Clymer's awful, but that last one's just a personal opinion.
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    I do love how the Biden Bros think every problem is solved just by Biden Mentioning it. It is not like he has to do anything about it, but he just mentiones it and we should all be in awe of his glory.

    Who was this dude four fucking years ago? Oh yeah, he was crazy uncle biden who was too weird and republican to make it on the dem ticket, and then came trump.

    The Biden Bros revisionist history is getting more and more like the republicans and trump. Us trannies better get in line and be grateful of old master biden's mentioning of us because it saved our lives. I hung on for 46 fucking years until Biden saved my life.

    Give me a fucking break with this bullshit. He better do better than a mention for my vote in four years. Tick Tick motherfucker.
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  10. Nyx

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    Not saying it's everyone here (before everyone gets mad at me... again), but there are a lot of liberals (and conservatives for that matter) who stop at hearing "we're getting what we wanted," and assume that everything will just fall in place to some degree, and that even if not everything good happens, enough will happen to stave off the worst effects of poverty and so on. It is the job of corporate media to equate words with action. To say "this is what's happening," and for people to just accept that it is. Euphemisms are especially common, and George Carlin used to nail the shit out of them, and it's one of the reasons I wish he were here now, to point out how many more euphemisms there are in corporate news, and how those are used to obfuscate what's really happening.

    For example, like the term "access." When they tell you they want you to have "access" to medical care, they're not telling you they want you to have medical care. They're telling you that if you can afford it, you should be able to get it, which is two wholly different outcomes.

    As for Charlotte Clymer, I once told her directly that if she were at Stonewall riots in 1969, she'd have been one of the first to call the cops on the rioters. She's awful, and her terrible Twitter takes among the transgender community are legendary. Any time there's a neoliberal talking point that needs reinforced and "diversified" (like how war is actually good as long it's a Democrat waging it), you can count on ol' Charlotte to double down on it. She's the anti-Chelsea, in that while Chelsea fought to stop the US from engaging in acts against its own citizens, Charlotte's always willing to back that same government up with the imperialism shuffle.
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    . . . oh, the other Chelsea.
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    Manning. I didn't even think it until I saw your post just now. Yeah, Manning, not Clinton. Sorry. :lol:
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    Find one person that thinks that.
    Hell, put it to a fucking poll if you want.
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    So, the pretty one? :ramen:
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    And the parliamentarian has been overruled before . . . by the Republicans . . . but Biden decided not to overrule the decision. A reasonable mistake, Biden's new to federal politics, he couldn't have been expected to anticipate he'd need that many Republicans to support a thing their party has been screaming against for decades.

    Technically, yes, you're correct that political suicide is still legal in America.
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    I'll do you one better.

    Find someone who could actually be considered a "Biden Bro." As in "is as enthusiastic about Biden as 'Bernie Bros' are about Bernie." Probably outside of his immediate family, and maybe just Champ and Major, there aren't people who are more than "It's fine, I guess" or "thank God it's not Trump any more."
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  17. Nyx

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    You need to make sure you discount politicians, because right now they're singing the FDR like prowess of Joe Biden all over the news, and the people they're polling are giving Biden "As" and "Bs" in grading his performance so far:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/14/us/politics/biden-polls-approval-rating.html
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    I know you're just funning, but I do think Chelsea Manning is a very lovely woman.
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    He mentioned trans people. Did he sign any executive orders to at least attempt to stop discrimination against them? Nope, he is just pointing to us so we will wave and he will be happy.

    Yes, I know you are easily satisfied and really fucking gullible and forgetful, but I am not. Go stand in the corner with the trumpistas who all forgot he used to be the antichrist back in the 90s.
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    Hello, there are a bunch of them around here who swoop in every time someone says something honest about dear leader that might make him look bad. There are certainly some Biden Bros around making excuses for his molesting and raping women.

    Oh I get it, it is like all the trumpistas who never liked trump or were excited about him, but somehow always had a lot to say whenever her would fuck up and people started calling him on it.

    It is almost like the Biden Bros are stealing every single play the trumpistas were making.
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    He reversed trump's orders about trans people and the military.
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    I don't have a dog in this fight......but new to federal politics? Biden was a U.S Senator from 1973 to 2008 and vice president from 2009 to 2016. That means he has almost 50 years experience in federal politics.He should be an expert by now.
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    Great, we are good enough to go kill brown people for the man, but not good enough to have an executive order saying we can get treatment when we need it and are paying for it ourselves.
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    I'm pretty sure it's sarcasm.
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    I would say so too. @AlphaMan making excuses for Biden seems to ignore the long history Biden has. There was someone elsew who had a long history of things that his voter's ignored, he had a name that was something like Dump, Lump, frump, I forget.
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    I don't think that's possible. But in the military I think they will pay for treatment now.
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    The new regulations provide "access to the military in one's self-identified gender provided all appropriate standards are met," the Defense Department said in a statement, and "provide a path for those in service for medical treatment, gender transition, and recognition in one's self-identified gender."

    Source
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    That seems reasonable to me. If you meet all the standards, and are effectively interchangeable with any other recruit, demanding no special treatment whatsoever, I don't see the problem.

    THERE it is. $$$$$$$$$$

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    Fuck off.

    How much is a life worth in uncle fester's fevered mind?
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