2016 Presidential Election Thread

Yep, you guys sure are stuck with 2 really, really, really shitty choices for president.

Good luck with that!

I thought you were a yank. You know that we'll just mess up the rest of the world more.

And you got the PM who is still apologizing for brushing against somebo.....awww....who cares; it's Canada.

And you're a fool because the corrupt politician is as unhinged and fascistic as the orange one.

These new emails are very bad for Hillary. The State Department is looking to release them in, SURPRISE, October.

http://gizmodo.com/hillary-clinton-s-email-scandal-just-got-scary-again-1785614906

Read the comments. The Berniebots are out in full force. Hilarious.

I liked this one in particular: "That’s the whole joke here. So, we’re really down to deciding if the next leader of the free world will be the Joker or Harley Quinn?" - MSNBCmole

That's ridiculous.

No it's not. Hillary is as fucked up and dangerous as Trump.

The problem is we've been taking them nearly every day.

Sad but true.

Given Trump's xenophobia, discrimination, misogyny, borderline racism and general experience-less idiocy, I don't see how anyone can truly believe this statement. Hillary may be corrupt, but I am not hearing her openly advocating discriminatory policies, although I'm sure the neo-neocons will somehow claim she does (poor put upon gun owners, etc).

Again, Trump isn't xenophobic. His wife is foreign born and raised. Her English is still pretty sketchy. He also runs hotels and resorts around the world, including in the Middle East and Central America. He's also not a misogynist, having been the ground breaker in moving women into the construction trades. He has more female executives than male executives, and pays them the same as men. Not even Hillary does that. He's also not racist, having fought like a demon to get blacks and Jews admitted to the upper tiers of Palm Beach society.

Go to bed jobless.

You know, if it were even close, I would now ask you to name one of Hillary's policies that is as dangerous as some one thing Trump has said, with me picking the most extreme example of the latter. But the issue is so incredibly uneven that I can turn this around for your benefit: Can you name any one policy that Trump supports that is not massively more dangerous than Hillary's position?

See, this is much more creative than "kill yourself."

Link

Interesting protest planned for Trump speaking in Austin:





Thing is that's Robert Morrow, chairman of the Travis County Republican Party.

His beef lies with Trump being accused of raping a 13 year old girl at the home of convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein and having a civil lawsuit pending on that, something I was not aware of but also something that helps explain @gturner 's completely rational worship of Trump.

The level of discourse in America continues to reach unprecedented levels of class. Well done.

That hat he's wearing...?

Standard issue Texas GOP

AP Story (dynamic, the link will go stale).

WASHINGTON (AP) -- More than half the people outside the government who met with Hillary Clinton while she was secretary of state gave money - either personally or through companies or groups - to the Clinton Foundation. It's an extraordinary proportion indicating her possible ethics challenges if elected president.

At least 85 of 154 people from private interests who met or had phone conversations scheduled with Clinton while she led the State Department donated to her family charity or pledged commitments to its international programs, according to a review of State Department calendars released so far to The Associated Press. Combined, the 85 donors contributed as much as $156 million. At least 40 donated more than $100,000 each, and 20 gave more than $1 million.​

She met with 154 people and got $156 million out of it. That's called CORRUPTION.

She belongs in federal prison.

It really isn't necessarily, but that completely misses the point. Of course Clinton is corrupt. We don't need your wild conspiracy theories to prove that. It's known. Settled. But given the opposition, it doesn't matter anymore.

This election would be going very differently if the GOP hadn't managed to come up with Trump to run against her. The DNC will run out of fruit baskets to send their opponents after election day.

Yes, that is CORRUPTION, a public official trading access and favors for massive amounts of cash. A lot of politicians are rotting in jail for just that.

It really isn't necessarily, but that completely misses the point. Of course Clinton is corrupt. We don't need your wild conspiracy theories to prove that. It's known. Settled. But given the opposition, it doesn't matter anymore.

This election would be going very differently if the GOP hadn't managed to come up with Trump to run against her. The DNC will run out of fruit baskets to send their opponents after election day.

Yes. It is necessarily.

Out of this great big world, half the private people she met with in her official duties at the State Department were people who paid her a fuck ton of money - right into her greedy personal pocket.

Duke Cunningham was sent to prison because a person with official business loaned him the use of a yacht on the Potomac. Duke went to jail for about $60,000 worth of personal donations. Hillary raked in $156 million in personal donations for selling access and favors. She belongs in federal prison, just like Cunningham.

Do you understand the phrase "that completely misses the point"?

Anyway,

It really isn't necessarily, but that completely misses the point. Of course Clinton is corrupt. We don't need your wild conspiracy theories to prove that. It's known. Settled. But given the opposition, it doesn't matter anymore.

This election would be going very differently if the GOP hadn't managed to come up with Trump to run against her. The DNC will run out of fruit baskets to send their opponents after election day.

From @gturner 's AP article he linked to:

So.....she's just as greasy as we all thought but it's not what crazy gturner wants us to think.

Yes, that's really corruption. Federal officials are often fired just for the appearance of corruption. It erodes public trust and harms the relationship between a people and their government.

But Clinton's corruption is much, much worse. She personally blocked the designation of Boko Haram as a terrorist organization, against the strongly expressed advice from every other part of government, because, as it turns out, a billionaire Nigerian oil man paid her a fuck ton of money because he was using Boko Haram to clear out villages so he could explore for oil. Since then Boko Haram has murdered over 11,000 people - all made possible by Hillary Clinton's corruption and greed.

And that's just one of many, many such deals, pulled off in Haiti, South America, and across the Middle East. She said she was broke when she left the White House. Since then she's raked in $2 billion dollars by selling US foreign policy to the highest bidder.

Cool story crazy guy! Everyone totally believes you because you have so much credibility.

Also it's funny how you literally and consistently blame islam and muslims for everything except when it comes to Hilary Clinton.

Credibility!

Wall Street Journal story from 2008.

Bill Clinton's Complicated World
Donor to Former President's Foundation Had Business Ties to Nigerian Dictator

Bill Clinton's ties to Nigerian businessman Gilbert Chagoury illustrate the kind of complicated relationships with foreign figures the former president is now disclosing to pave the way for Hillary Clinton to become secretary of state.​

Gilbert Chagoury gave Hillary between $1 million and $5 million dollars and has been a major bundler for the Clintons. He also pledged his company, Chagoury Group, to donate $1 BILLION dollars to her. He avoided British jail on bribery charges by plea bargaining a way to stay out of prison. Switzerland convicted him of making millions from money laundering and supporting terrorists, but he again escaped justice (almost certainly the the Clinton's help). He also smuggled $300 million dollars to foreign bank accounts for Nigeria's dictator. And of course the Clintons invited him to exclusive White House Christmas dinners. She's also in bed with some other Nigerian billionaires.

Boko Haram, child slavery, blood diamonds. It all leads straight back to Hillary, the international protector of thugs and dictators everywhere (as long as they pay her lots of cash).

Let me get this straight. The Big Scandal that's going to Take Down Hillary Clinton is ... the fact that well-connected people get meetings?

Is there a single president in U.S. history who'd be eligible to serve if that were a disqualifier?

Yes, because no US President charged people millions of dollars to their own pocket for access. That would be grounds for impeachment. Except perhaps for Bill Clinton, who was impeached anyway.