2016 Presidential Election Thread

Typical sore loser syndrome.

Funny how education is always blamed by the losing side. No, it's not that the voters lacked education. Your candidate failed in his/her mission to connect with voters . The same states that went for Obama did not go for Clinton. Thats not a reflection on the system, its a reflection on what a flawed candidate she was.

Here in Florida, its looking like our Governor seat will flip Democrat , the Senate seat will flip Republican and the cabinet will remain Republican. I'm sure the losers will cry foul(election tampering, voter suppression, lack of education etc.etc) yet will completely miss the fact that both parties won on election day, just not in every race that they wanted.

Also, no one needs "apologizing" to. That was just plain sad and pathetic. Stop whining, put on your adult pants, and work to change the outcome next time.

Two years later and she still wont go away....

Hillary Clinton: President Clinton's affair with Monica Lewinsky wasn't abuse of power

Unbelievable.

But her emails! And Bengazi!

to post #10903

So then you agree that it wasnt an abuse to of power?

Hmm. The email situation arose, in part, because of advice Colin Powell gave her. As for Bengazi, I fail to see how Hillary's actions could be considered an abuse of power. Now, mind you, I think that the argument could be made that continually investigating Hillary for years after a number of investigations had cleared her of wrongdoing would be considered an abuse of Powe. Sort of like how someone today, in Congress, launching an investigation to see if W knew about the 9/11 attacks and did nothing to prevent them would be abusing their power.

I mean, we know that W was warned that "something" was going to happen, but I think that anybody who thinks that W had the specifics and decided to just let it happen so that he could invade Iraq is smoking crack.

If Republicans really want Hillary to go away, the first step in the process is to stop talking about her. But so long as people chant "Lock her up!" at rally, she's going to figure in politics, no matter what she does.

I'm sure you bore the Obama years stoically and heroically.

Heroic? No, just more like a mature adult.

So I take that to be a yes. You're perfectly fine with what Bill did despite it being an obvious no no in any working environment. Not everyone in your party agrees with that.

Didn't say that at all. I just said that if you Republicans want Hillary to go away, maybe stop talking about her so much. Especially when it came to things that happened years ago.

And not everyone in your party agrees that Trump's a good President. What's your point?

Then what is your opinion on the article posted? This isn't that difficult.

Hillary's comments were made just recently.

And I don't want her to go away. Im just fine with watching her make a complete ass of herself.

Uh huh...

https://wordforge.net/index.php?threads/a-question-for-lefties.67002/

I created a poll. Wow. That really compares to the hysteria that some of you have displayed after Trump won.

I know this is an old post but since the thread is bumped anyway...

It's increasingly clearer and clearer that the problems and difficulties with American elections aren't bugs, they're features.

of course it was.
But that's irrelevant to the point. No one ever ask Mitt Romney to shut up and go away. Wonder what the significant difference is?

It's cute that y'all think dunking on Clinton here impresses anyone at all since no one here ever hinted that Hillary was an ideal choice.

I mean sure, we call out nonsensical bullshit lies but I said in this very thread that everyone who voted for Clinton did so knowing there was some bad behavior built in and chose to live with that given the alternative - just like Trump people choose to live with the multitude of evils about him given the alternative was President Hillary.

So keep bringing her up if it helps you climax in your palm but that's about all the purpose it serves.

I'd have to read it first, and I don't care enough about Hillary to do so.

And you're the one bringing it up. Just like Trump brings her up at his rallies. And while you see plenty of folks like Corey Booker, Michael Avenatti, and Kamala Harris making trips to Iowa to give speeches, you don't see Hillary doing that.

Of course you don't because then every day's a repeat of election day 2016. And so long as you can point to that, you can ignore the current situation. The last time a Democratic candidate re-ran against the Republican President who beat them, was in 1956, when Adlai Stevenson tried. He lost, and no major party candidate has tried to do this since. It is exceedingly unlikely that Hillary will attempt to break the pattern. Even if she does, Avenatti will clobber her in the primaries.

This is a pretty terrible look for Hillary.

A mature adult one.
Oh, wait, no, the opposite thing.

So you're just being a douche. Got it. See ya

I don't understand why she's still defending this. Even at that time, in no workplace in the entire country would this have bern considered acceptable behavior.

Best guess -- she has a blind spot because he's her husband.

It was definitely an abuse of power. Monica could have stripped down and jumped onto his lap completely unsolicited and it would still be incumbent upon him to say no.

Do you care anything about what HW has to say about politics today? How about W? No? Mebbe you'd like to quote something that Mitt Romney has to say? No? Then why should I care about Hillary? John McCain? Yeah, I'll give his voice some weight since until he died he held political office. Obama? I keep wondering he won't be ranked near James Buchanon in the history books 100 years from now.

Yes

Yes

He's running to be the next Senator from Utah .Why wouldn't I care?

You replied to a post about her

So because they no longer hold office their opinion doesn't mean anything? Okay then. I understand the desire to lock Hillary away and put that embarrassing loss in the rear view mirror, but as long as Hillary continues to make herself public and fan the flames of another run, then its completely fair to discuss. If you don't care, then don't respond.

I got that one wrong too, but least I wasn't predicting a landslide

Well shit happened.

I underestimated the latent racism in many American whites. Combined with Russian interference and Comey falling for Gulliani’s allies trap the election results didn’t match the polling (from a year out) that I based my prediction on.

Oh do piss off with that bullshit. Hillary was white and it's the same electorate that voted for Obama twice.

Coupled with a candidate that took the midwest for granted and ran a horrible campaign. But as I said before, I missed that one too. I thought for sure moderates would be turned off by Trump and I just coouldn't fathom any candidate that talked and acted like a thug from a mafia movie had any chance of being elected president.

A fact making you uncomfortable doesn’t make it any less true.
https://theintercept.com/2018/09/18/2016-election-race-class-trump/

Perkins gloated last night at the "Values Voter" conference that his Dominionist cohorts are basically running the administration (on social policy)