2020 Presidential Primaries

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  1. Steal Your Face

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    Niki Haley.
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  2. Steal Your Face

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  4. Nova

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    Kinda. It wasn't planed to fail, but it was accepted as flawed as yes, the idea was that every time you address a flaw you get closer to universal coverage (not necessarily single payer, which is different)

    It was, after all, a GOP designed plan. Of course it was flawed.
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    She was given a nice job after dating the mayor. The optics aren't going to look good regardless of how you spin it. :shrug:

    Plus, she's running for President so EVERYTHING comes out and all bets are off . That's always been the life of a candidate for the highest office in the land and race/gender isn't going to change that . Deal with it.
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  8. Quincunx

    Quincunx anti-anti Staff Member Administrator

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    Why should she have to "spin" it? There's never been an indication of any favors improperly sought or obtained. It's nothing but a baseless smear. Those are your optics.
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    tafkats scream not working because space make deaf Moderator

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    Our halls of power are filled with upper-class white boys who got plum internships and early admission to Harvard because of who their daddies were.

    Until people get just as indignant about that as they do about Kamala Harris' boyfriend appointing her to two commissions 25 years ago, getting outraged by the latter is just a load of misogynistic crap.
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  10. T.R

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    The spinning was in reference to the hack writer from the article.
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    Regardless of the optics, James Woods is indeed a fucking asshole for using those misogynist hashtags, and the author is correct that there's a double standard when it comes to the sexual background of male politicians.
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    On that point I agree .Woods was a douchebag. For some people, politics brings out the worse in them.

    On the charge of a double standard, were you asleep during the Clinton years?

    Plus I dont remember any kids gloves being used on Trump's sexual escapades. They seemed to dominate the headlines quite a bit.
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    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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    Lol James Woods is still alive? When was the last time he was relevant?
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    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    "Mostly true" =/= "not true."
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  16. Steal Your Face

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    It’s not mostly true, it’s half true. Most importantly it was one of many plans and it never even got a vote.
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    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Get back to me when "mostly true" = "not true." And when Mitch McConnell dies of a stroke waiting for the EMTs to get through Beltway traffic. :bergman:
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    Get back to me when you learn the difference between mostly true and half true.
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    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    You said "not true," which is also not the same as either "mostly true" or "half true." Make up your mind.
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    Half true is also a helluva sight better than anything the POTUS has said since his election campaign, yet the fuckers'll give him a pass on that.

    You'd think they'd be proud to own a chunk of America's first teetering steps towards a decent, fair, affordable healthcare system. :)
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  23. Steal Your Face

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    Nice video on Tulsi Gabbard and. I saw the libertarian angle coming and she's absolutely right.
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    Keep the source in mind:

    This is a guy who has repeatedly downplayed the significance of Russian interference and often sides with Trump against the "deep state" (you know, the people actually fulfilling their oaths to defend the country). Plus the NBC report wasn't based on a single source, but on multiple stories and segments in Russian state media.
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  26. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    So you think she’s a Putin puppet?
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    Not a puppet, but I think many of her views are more aligned with the Kremlin than any other Democratic candidate, so they want to promote her in order to mainstream those positions.
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    What views are in line with the Kremlin?
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    Mainly her positions on Syria, as well as counterterrorism operations and military intervention in general.
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    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Yanno, if you want to support a candidate, it's usually a good idea to know what that candidate stands for. :yes:
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