800 Union Members Vote Themselves Out Of A Job~

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  1. Chest Rockwell

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    http://www.stltoday.com/business/columns/job-watch/article_b01e72be-e782-11df-ab83-00127992bc8b.html

    So not only do these dipshits vote themselves out of a job, but they probably killed their town in the process. Good luck selling your houses now fuck-o.

    Well, on the one hand, this will probably cause a short-term ammo shortage again, but on the plus side, that union just assfucked their members. :rofl:
     
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  2. Chest Rockwell

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    Re: 8-- Union Members Vote Themselves Out Of A Job~

    Thankee-sai.
     
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    Stupid is as stupid does.
     
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    Yay for a right-to-work state!
    :techman:
     
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    Good.

    If those employees are so damned valuable, they should have no problem finding other jobs with comparable pay and benefits.
     
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  7. Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee

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    Mississippi is getting a tremendous amount of manufacturing jobs lately. Toyota has opened a plant in northern Mississippi, Nissan has a plant in Canton north of Jackson Mississippi, and there are dozens of other manufacturers opening shop in the state. FedEx is building shipping facilities in northern Mississippi like crazy to avoid Tennessee taxes, as are dozens of other corporations.

    I think the state has a bright economic future.
     
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    We the people of Mississippi thank you for the jobs.

    ;)
     
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    I bought some ammo today. :)
     
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    So Alton slides further into the cesspit. Maybe other union shops will follow Olins example and we finally get rid of the cancer known as unions...
     
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    The south in general is growing. Alabama has taken on Honda, Mercedes, Fiat, and Hyundai. With the opening of the cruise terminal in Mobile and the doubling of the cargo terminal's capacity, the shipbuilding industry is taking off down there. Krupp is opening a massive steel plant down there. The towns around these industries have seen huge influxes of business for these companies and their suppliers.

    Several years ago, the largest industry in my town, a textile mill, closed and put about 1/4 of the town's population in the unemployment lines. A Canadian firm made a bid on the property last week. They want to turn it into a cabinet factory. A Japanese petroleum/lubricant company is building a factory in the new industrial park. A large plant that manufactures copper wire for electrical products opened up about two years ago.

    We've made it attractive for manufacturing to come here, so guess what. They are.
     
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    Given the current trends, a McDonald's isn't far off.
     
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    Yay! Elites are winning the class war!
     
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    Class war, indeed.
     
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    Since business is what generates the wealth in our societies, I'm not sure why anyone would WANT to go to war with it. Why fight when you can have mutual beneficial exchange?

    Of course, the President doesn't seem to understand that any better than you do. He's convinced that every nickel a union presses out of business is justice served and then is surprised and upset when business takes their operation elsewhere.
     
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  16. RickDeckard

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    If by "business", you mean those who own companies, then that's not true. Wealth generation is a collaborative process that requires the efforts of both elites and workers.
    And right now, one of those groups is doing spectacularly well, partially because of measures like this. The other is not.
     
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    :huh:

    A union and a private employer didn't reach an agreement. What's the problem?

    Should private companies be required to reach agreements with unions?
     
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    I suspect the company is willing to re-hire many of the laid off workers in the new location. They'd be foolish not to hire experienced workers with a proven history.
     
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    And the workers would be foolish to not want to move to an area with a lower cost of living.
     
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    I have a cousin who worked for us straight out of college before moving to California to become a head hunter. That is a hard business - you get about 200 STFU's for every sale, and most people simply can't take it. So he goes out there, busts his butt for six months before he builds up his network (both of hirees and of businesses) and starts making a great living (in the LA area).

    We were talking last night about the high, high tax rate in CA. He is absolutely dismayed at the high income tax rate the state has! Dismayed is the best word I can think of to describe his emotions on the subject, but there is some anger there too.

    In several years, he'll get the chance to open up another office for the company in a location of his choosing (five markets).

    Seattle, Atlanta, and Dallas are among his options. Guess which one he is seriously considering? I'll give you a hint: another Wordforger is considering the market as well for another business.
     
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    Heaven forbid they should want to remain living where their friends and families are!
     
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    How so? The union, representing the workers, decided that it just wasn't worth the time or effort to work for that employer. Big business had to take it and lost the value of that business to another state. I'm sure the collective will keep them warm and their families fed and educated for many years to come.

    By your rhetoric, Rick, this is a clear victory for the little guy. You should be dancing in the aisles.
     
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    Sentimentality is irrelevant. You go where the jobs are. Nobody owes you a job or a minimum living standard.
     
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    Or you change the government in your state through the ballot box.
     
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    And vote yourself an extension of welfare benefts?
     
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    The choice the employees faced was between conceding the employers demands, or losing their jobs. Either of those represented a defeat, and a decrease in their living standards to appease their bosses.
     
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    So they made an economic decision to work for the government instead. In other words, collect an unemployment check. Probably not as much money but I can bet the hours are a lot better and there's no chance of getting fired. Oh, wait. The American public just voted an end to unlimited unemployment, didn't they? It remains to be seen whether the benefits will get cut off when the money runs out, though.
     
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    Noooo... Unless you want to. I prefer to vote for the opposite. The best welfare is a job.
    I vote for the candidate who hopefully will let small business people thrive so they can grow and hire more people, and entice other business' big or small to move in.
    That means of course smaller gubmint.
    I'm sure that's what the people in Miss and other places and towns getting these business' voted for.
     
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    Fuck them and their imagined entitlement to a certain lifestyle. Humanity needs to abandon this delusion that the world owes them something.
     
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    Hey, sometimes it's just best to pick up your marbles and go home.
    Apparently the consessions asked would have put the company in a defecit catergoy and they chose not to participate. Pretty cut and dried. They don't owe anybody anything especially going broke to appease some mafiosa types by keeping them "employed".
    Anyone is free to re-apply I would assume but some of the union guys I know wouldn't stoop there as it would admit personal defeat in their eyes.

    One bright spot is the company has other operations they can concentrate on and I hope they have the room for expansion at an acceptable cost.

    Ah well, good luck with it all! :D
     
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