A Chart to Help Those on the Fence About Punching Nazis

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  1. Ten Lubak

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    I literally never said "extra" surveillance. Just surveillance. So.....what are you talking about?
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  2. Bickendan

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    Colour me confused as to what your point is or whether you're agreeing or disagreeing with me, because it should be common knowledge that the Japanese were fucktards in China. It's called 'the Rape of Nanking' for a reason.
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  3. Dinner

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    So we don't elect them. Tell me again how punching them stops them from being elected.
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  5. Captain X

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    :rolleyes: So how do you feel about that, Mr. Pandentic?

    German ----> German history
    Japanese ----> Japanese history

    Do I have to draw a picture? :wtf: I mean, maybe go back to what you said that I was responding to?
  6. K.

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    Nobody has suggested that punching them stops them from being elected. Wrongly painting those who consider punching Nazis in direct self-defence as instigators of violence certainly helps rather than hurts the Nazis' cause, though.
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  7. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    it is distressing that 20 percent of college students support physically assaulting people. These students are "our future" who we depend on to change things/society for the better. You know, show us old people how we are "doing it wrong" when it comes to living in a fair, functioning, democratic society. And if the video is accurate, that guy did not punch the Nazi in self defense by any stretch of the imagination. I'm not saying he "sucker punched" him because he didn't hit him from behind or when he was sitting down or anything, but there was no self defense involved. I hope he broke a finger or two because he had to connect solidly to knock him out cold.
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  8. Quincunx

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    People with known ties to extremist groups absolutely should be under surveillance, whether those groups espouse an Islamist or National Socialist ideology. This would not include all Muslims any more than it would include all white dudes with shaved heads.
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    Marching is not violence, therefore it's not self-defense.
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  10. Dinner

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    Oh, fuck off with that nonsense. Antifa is forced to initiate violence in self defense? I know you are ESL but that position is so retarded it would be laughed out of any court and even Black Bloc/Antifa knows it which is why they attack innocent journalists and even just passers by on the streets recording things on cellphones.

    "We had to beat up the journalists for defensive reasons because otherwise there would be video evidence of our criminal misconduct." :lol:
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  11. Captain X

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    Kinda what I was getting at. Of course he might have noticed I didn't feel all that strongly about it since I undid my "disagree" (or whatever I voted) almost right after I clicked it.
  12. Diacanu

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    Are Captain X and Dinner still French-kissing Nazis in front of everyone?
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  13. Zombie

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    Seriously.

    If they are going to punch them they may as well go the extra step and kill them.
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  14. Zombie

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    If Antifa is marching down my street I claim the right to attack them. It is self defense. Antifa has shown itself to be violent towards anyone who it thinks is not aligned with Antifa values. Therefore I'm in danger.

    Thanks K.!
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  15. Diacanu

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    So there you have it, Rightforge hates Antifa, a group that hasn't committed genocide, more than Nazis, a group that has.
    Either Rightforge loves genocide, or they're such partisan ideologues that its made them retarded.
    Vanity and ego won't let them admit to either, so I'll round it off that they love vanity and ego more than morals period.
    But we already knew that, didn't we?
    Yes, we did
    :yes:
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  16. Man Afraid of his Shoes

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    The way I see it, it's not about Left vs Right nor Nazi vs Antifa. It's about the rule of law. :shrug:
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  17. Zombie

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    That's your argument?

    Not a good one.

    Okay let's say the Nazi's marching in Charlottesville are guilty of genocide because they are claiming to be Nazis. Lock them up and hang them.

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    No problem. I'm all for it.

    Now Antifa, which is just a fancy name for Communist:

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    genocide - the deliberate killing of a large group of people, especially those of a particular ethnic group or nation.

    Communists are experts at genocide. Just like the Nazis.
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  18. Zombie

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    That's exactly what it is. Rule of law. In America.

    As long as the stupid Nazi group is marching down the street no one has the right to attack them.

    As long as the stupid Antifa group is marching down the street no one has the right to attack them.

    Unless the Nazi or Antifa group start attacking others/property in which case you can defend yourself and police should step in and arrest them.

    The mere presence of either group, both of which are Anti-American, is not a justification for attacking them.
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  19. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    That's your argument?

    Not a good one.

    :diacanu: :finger:
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  20. Zombie

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    Still better than yours.

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  21. Fisherman's Worf

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    9/11 broke everyone's brains.
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  22. Zombie

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    "If Antifa is marching down my street I claim the right to attack them. It is self defense. Antifa has shown itself to be violent towards anyone who it thinks is not aligned with Antifa values. Therefore I'm in danger."

    How is that dumb Federal Farmer? It's accurate. Antifa attacks people it thinks are not like it. Antifa was running around attacking people long before Charlottesville. Just use Youtube.

    And how is it dumb to suggest that if we are going to hold the Nazi fucks in Charlottesville responsible for the genocide that the actual Nazis committed that we should also hold the communist fucks responsible for all the crimes committed by Communists.

    And yet you agree with post #648?

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  23. Steal Your Face

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    If they are marching and doing no harm, then it's not self defense.
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  24. Shirogayne

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    I thought they'd just cut the Nazis out and move on to rimming one another :brokeback:
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  25. Dinner

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    Good, I am glad you have come around to supporting law and order.
  26. Zombie

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    Good lord you are just stupid.

    How could you not get the sarcasm? What do you think the whole "Thanks K.!" was for?

    This topic has run for well over 600 posts of which several posts are mine. I know you've read my arguments. I've argued in several posts this point, "If they are marching and doing no harm, then it's not self defense."

    So how the fuck do you think I actually support attacking Antifa if all they are doing is marching down the street?

    I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of the left you stupid fuck. If it's acceptable to attack Nazi shitheads marching down a street certainly than it's acceptable to attack Antifa shitheads marching down a street.

    Then two posts later I write:

    "As long as the stupid Nazi group is marching down the street no one has the right to attack them.

    As long as the stupid Antifa group is marching down the street no one has the right to attack them.

    Unless the Nazi or Antifa group start attacking others/property in which case you can defend yourself and police should step in and arrest them."

    You stupid fuck.

    You really are just a moron.
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  27. Zombie

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    Federal Retard,

    Don't try and weasel out of it with a little smiley.

    You're a stupid fuckwit of a moron.

    Get back in your box.

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  28. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Quit rep whining, fag.
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  29. Zombie

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    It's not rep whining you cunt.

    It's asking why you marked the posts with a stupid tag when you've seen my arguments in this very thread and than the baffling answer I get is: "If they are marching and doing no harm, then it's not self defense."

    I thought you were smart enough to realize that I wasn't actually saying we should attack Antifa marching down a street if that's all they are doing. That I was being sarcastic and pointing out the hypocrisy of people like K. who was saying it was acceptable to attack Nazi shitheads walking down a street for just walking down the street yet it is not acceptable to do the same thing to Antifa shitheads.

    Apparently I was wrong to assume you've got some intelligence greater than a pile of dogshit.
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  30. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Not that I need to explain myself to you, but here it is. As you pointed out, this thread has run over 600 pages, I'm not keeping up with everything that everyone has written only the fairly recent posts. I'm fully aware of the people who have agreed that it's okay to punch people simply because they don't like them. I've also agreed with @Dinner several times, it doesn't mean I remember what I agreed on a month ago so if he wrote something I thought was dumb, sarcastically or not, I would rate it dumb. Honestly, I skim over most posts, and just get to the relative information. That being, whatever point the poster is making. So no I'm not dumb, it's just you aren't high on my radar.
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