A polite message for Dayton.....

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  1. El Chup

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    Oh, and of course,
    Luke 6:31 - Do to others as you would have them do to you.

    Superiority? Don't have to answer to others?

    I call bullshit.
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  2. Kommander

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    Yeah, but, actor-observer bias and fundamental attribution error are things!
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  3. K.

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    The Sartre quote is massively out of context; he is describing other people's opinion there, not his own.
  4. El Chup

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    Your propensity for pedantry overrides the overall message. Are you making the case that Satre wasn't a humanist and didn't believe in said sentiment?
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  5. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    Even with the added context, the Sartre quote is relevant.
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  6. Steal Your Face

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    Dayton probably prefers this one.

    "I just whooped your ass"
    Austin 3:16
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    The Golden Rule is mostly used to justify murder/suicide.
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  8. K.

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    Whether Sartre was a humanist or not is one of the thorniest problems of his philosophy, and cannot sensibly be answered without refining the term into several competing definitions. He did not believe in the rule the poster quotes next to his name.
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    So even if that is true, do you dispute the overall sentiment of the poster and the other comments within it and my post?
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    I think it is a -- potentially very dangerous -- mistake to think that they all mean the same thing. They don't, in major and substantial ways.

    I think that I don't like to see my views misrepresented, the authors of the poster probably don't like to see their views misrepresented, and so the Golden Rule should compel them to treat their sources with more respect than they showed Sartre, instead of massively misrepresenting his views.

    As for the Golden Rule itself, I think it implies a false universalisation. It assumes that a good yardstick to predict the effect of my actions on others is to think they are like me, and assume they'll be affected as would I. But not everyone desires, avoids, is improved nor impoverished by the same actions. I am pretty impervious to being called names; that doesn't mean I should readily call others names just because it doesn't hurt me. I don't enjoy drinking alcohol; that doesn't imply I shouldn't gift a nice bottle of wine to friends if they'll enjoy it. A much better rule would be, Don't Hurt People Needlessly, Even If They Are Not Like You.
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    Only Packard could derail a troll thread.
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  12. Dayton Kitchens

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    Of course I don't have to answer to others.

    I have to answer to God.
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    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    What if the other in question is God in disguise?
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  14. Dayton Kitchens

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    Cute but IIRC at least according to the Bible God doesn't appear in disguise.

    Angels have before but not God.
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  15. El Chup

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    What if God isn't "according to the Bible"? Or perhaps, what is The Bible isn't the be all and end of of God's "laws"?
  16. Dayton Kitchens

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    Is that a question you actually expect me to respond to?

    If so then I will say yes it is and yes it is. Are you conceding that there is in fact a God?
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    Okay, we can play by your particular rules. Angels are messengers of God. Do you think it doesn't get back to him if you treat an angel in disguise badly?
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  18. Dayton Kitchens

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    I'm sure it does. So why or how am I treating an angel in disguise badly?
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    There's no guarantee thhat somebody you treat badly isn't an angel in disguise. So when you say that it doesn't matter how you treat another person, because you only answer to God, you are risking that very relationship with God.
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    Yeah, that little old lady he abandoned on the side of the road after he hit her car, could have been an angel.
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  21. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    She almost certainly was. God has tested Dayton, and Dayton failed horribly.
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  22. El Chup

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    Of course I'm not. I'm conceding that your be if that there is a God, therefore I am putting to you the notion that even if one treats God as real there are still questions that need answering. As a superior person you should have spotted the already, no?
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    Morally superior. You have a superior education so you can answer your own questions.
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  24. El Chup

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    My superior education tells me that saying "morally superior" isn't enough. That is the fact that you are yet again not only ignoring serious questions, but also ignoring key parts of your own scripture.

    What do you disagree with your own scripture.
  25. Dayton Kitchens

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    I have no idea what you are talking about.

    You're the better educated one. Perhaps you can explain it.
  26. El Chup

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    I just did explain it. Why can't you articulate it? I thought Americans were superior on all things??
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  27. Dayton Kitchens

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    Still no idea what you are talking about.
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    We are so superior that, ironically, inferiors see us as inferior, just like how Kirk and the Klingons saw the Organians as inferior.
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  29. El Chup

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    What don't you? You're smarter than most are you not?
  30. Dayton Kitchens

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    Doesn't matter. You are better educated than me aren't you?

    If you're not feel free to admit it.