A quote about the 2016 presidential election

Discussion in 'The Red Room' started by Asyncritus, Mar 11, 2016.

  1. Amaris

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    I'd like to remind you, and everyone else, that when you start getting into a back and forth with gturner, to keep in mind that it's gturner. None of it will matter. None.
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  2. Jenee

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    That is not in dispute.
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  3. Steal Your Face

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    Then the founding fathers do agree.
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    No. The VP is not the president.
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  5. Dayton Kitchens

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    No. The Vice President in the first three U.S. elections went to the guy who got the second most electoral votes. That worked until Aaron Burr basically used ambiguity in the Constitution and the Federalists hatred for Jefferson to foul the traditional process where several electoral voters deliberately held back their votes for the guy everyone knew was intended as the VP choice.
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  6. Steal Your Face

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    But getting to the VP resulted in a runoff election.
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    Are you even following this thread? This is not about the VP. It's about the president.
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  8. Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee

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    @Jenee, why do you pretend you have been addressed? No one here likes you or cares about your opinion.
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  9. Amaris

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    Why do you say that like anyone gives a good goddamn what you think?
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  11. Zombie

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    Correction....

    Whoever wins the most electoral votes wins the election.

    You can lose the popular vote but still be President because what matters is those electoral votes.
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  12. Amaris

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    To whom?
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    To anyone who matters.
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    Ah, so then you live in an echo chamber. That's not surprising.
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    And, strictly speaking, if they wanted to, the legislatures of California, New York and Texas could decide that their states' electoral votes will go to whichever candidate is able to juggle the most grapefruits while balancing on top of a yoga ball and singing the Finnish national anthem.
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    No fucking shit. What are we talking about here? The 92 PRESIDENTIAL election. Not the VP, not the popular vs electoral, not some imaginary one up you feel you need to steal. ... grow up.
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    Jenee you fucking emotional retarded bitch............

    They were arguing over popular vote for President when you chimed in with your usual retarded nonsense. Whoever wins the majority of popular vote doesn't become President. It's electoral votes that count.

    I know it's hard because you're dumb like a box of rocks (apologies to all the box of rocks out there for comparing you to Jenee) but do try and follow the flow of the conversation and what you wrote.
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  18. Jenee

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    No. The discussion was about the majority vote and that 49% (OF THE ELECTORAL VOTES) is not a majority.
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    If nobody gets a majority of electoral votes then the election is decided by the House of Representatives.
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    Ok. So, sat back long enough to think things through. I was incorrect. The popular vote was not split with no one over 50%. So the electoral votes went to Clinton.

    Are you happy?

    Now, @Zombie why don't you stop being a jackass and quit bringing up stupid shit.
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    I'm not sure the founding fathers considered the possibilities. Supposedly the concept was developed beginning in the 1850s: http://archive.fairvote.org/irv/vt_lite/history.htm
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    Possibly. Either way, it's not how our presidential elections are resolved. Whomever gets the most (OMG ELECTORAL) votes, wins.
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    Uh, yeah. I just think those electoral votes could be decided differently. I think you're confusing me with other people who are arguing with you.
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    No, I just wanted to be precise in case someone else wants to be stupid.

    I completely agree the whole electoral college should be .... revamped. There's too much room for error and human emotion.
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    When has that ever happened?
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    For the presidential candidate.

    For the Vice presidential nominee it is decided in the Senate.

    And neither one is decided by straight up votes by the Reps or Senators. Instead they vote by states.
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    The best way for you to be precise is too actually learn about the subject you're fucking talking about.
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    Whomever gets the most electoral votes doesn't win unless they get a majority of the electoral votes. They can easily do so without getting a majority of the nationwide popular vote, or even a majority of the popular vote in any of the states whose electoral votes they won, but if they don't get to 270, it doesn't matter if they have more than the other guy.
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    But unused electoral votes can be traded for bitcoins.