Alien: Covenant

Looks like it's getting good reviews.

Currently 79% based off only 42 reviews. It appears they kinda went the Force Awakens route, a soft retread of the 1979 original with some wacky elements involving David and the Engineers thrown in for good measure.

Still can't care about any of these human characters. The 1979 original had a fantastic cast, with great actors that were able to communicate a sense of who their characters were even if they weren't given much to work with (e.g. Lambert). They were grizzled space veterans.

This cast is a insufferable collection of self-congratulatory millennials whose very existence in the universe is justification for the most gruesome deaths imaginable at the hands of ravenous Aliens.

And fucking James Franco.

Die. Horribly. Screaming.

Nobody seen it yet?

I did. It's decent, and clears up some (but not all) of the questions remaining from Prometheus. I didn't think that this xenomorph was the highlight - instead that was Fassbenders character(s), even if his motives are somewhat puzzling.

Well, "ALIEN: COVENANT"'s finally here!

I'm looking forward to seeing it in the next few days.

Saw it and it's decent. The xenomorph looks good and I like the over all story, but I feel like it was just missing a tiny bit more scary moments. The back burster moment was great though. I really liked the two Fassbenders, can we have two Fassbenders in every movie? Over all, B.

I want to add the scenes between David and Walter are absolutely amazing, especially the flute playing. Also, I was pleasantly surprised by Guy Pearce's cameo.

So would I have been if I didn't now know it was coming.

This was one of the few movies that I had almost no information on.

Okay, I finally figured out what this movie reminded me of, it's a TNG movie where Lore is the villain and there just happens to be a xenomorph. I'm upgrading my rating to B+ now.

http://dickynoo.blogspot.com/2017/05/big-summer-movies-part-5-part-2.html

It's not clear what you don't like.

Thought I made it clear in the blue parts I quoted, and reacted to in white.

It's an Alien movie, what did you expect the alien is killed right away, they leave, roll credits?

I expected the shit from Prometheus to be answered better.
There's a missing movie in between Prometheus and Covenant that looks like it was more interesting.
Instead, we get Scott giving the finger, and going "here, here's the explodey shit you want, dummies. ".

That's what everyone bitched about, not me, so he gave it to them.

I thought it was exactly as advertised and Fassbender nailed it. Would I rather have a direct follow up from Promethious with Shaw, yes, but that's not what most fans demanded.

Hmmmm.......I think I'm going to go ahead and see this because the one thing all reviews have in common is high praise for Fassbender's gonzo performance.

The humans are just cannon fodder. I at least want to see if James Franco gets the most gruesome & painful death.

It seems to me they decided that there's really nothing left to explore about the aliens themselves, so they've grafted on this sci-fi plot with the Engineers that's really just a riff on any number of Trek episodes and other movies, including 2001 (alien race "seeds" Earth with biological life and/or kickstarts the evolutionary process, and homo sapiens are the result).

I'll give you that.
Fassbender was good as Data vs Lore.
If we could have had a whole movie of that, that too would have been better.

You're "tapping out?"

That doesn't sound terribly positive!

Saw it yesterday, much better than Prometheus, but still a missed opportunity given the imagery. And the ship... I'll get to that shortly.

Whereas Prometheus could've been a really good play on Brahma/Shiva, what we got was humanity's creators decided to give us the address of their bioweapon laboratory planet. As you do. If the UK asks aliens to visit, I'm sure we'll tell them to pop over to Porton Down first.

Convenant, especially given the religious nature of the crew and David's experiments could've been a play on Dante's Inferno, with the necropolis being the 9th and 10th circles as David plays both Judas and Satan, the colonists forced to pass through regions of David's creations until they reach the centre where the real horror awaits. But that would've required more of a del Toro than a Scott.

The drawings in David's study was more "tell, don't show" sadly. Seeing his menagerie of killing machines as they move from bugs to higher animals would've been much creepier than his portfolio.

Now, on to the ship. Anyone want to explain why, a colony ship with everyone not a machine in hypersleep, needs to be kept pressurized and oxygenated? A low pressure noble gas would make more sense, with crew areas pressurized on demand, otherwise you're inviting disaster. Oxygen is not a nice element, sure we need it to live, but it likes to cuddle other chemicals usually in an exothermic manner, which pretty much sends an RSVP to fire, which in space would tend to equal death. And pressurized? Yeah, that won't cause any issues in case of a hull breach at all.

So, good film overall, but a missed opportunity and one that doesn't answer that many questions.

They didn't answer the most important question from Prometheus.

Why did the Engineers create humanity and then decide to destroy them later on?

Also it was implied in Prometheus that the Engineers created the Xenomorphs as a weapon against humanity however in this film

I'm curious how this will lead to the original movie. It's still not explained who the original space jockey is or where he came from, especially considering what goes down in this movie.

THIS!

A thousand times THIS

A question to those who've seen "ALIEN: COVENANT":

How would you rate & rank it in the ALIEN(S) Series?

Alien A+
Aliens A
Alien:Covenant B+
Prometheus B
Alien: Ressurection C+
Alien 3 C

Haven't seen AvP.

Alien
Aliens
Prometheus
Resurrection
Covenant
Alien 3

Resurrection is better than Covenant?

For me, I really liked Prometheus and honestly I can't say which one I like better, it or Covenant, but I'm going with Covenant for now because of Lore vs Data aspect. After all, two Fassbenders is better than one.

It's crap, but it didn't lie to me, or betray me like Covenant did.

You're not missing anything!