And so Trump's control of the media starts...

The aforementioned Turner Classic Movies.
TNT back when it was good, and had Monstervision with Joe Bob Briggs.
Captain Planet. It's corny as fuck, but it pissed off Republicans, and that's always worth a merit badge.
WCW wrestling. You may hate wrestling, but anything that was a thorn in the side of Vince McMahon, again, merit badge time.
Time Warner before he sold it to AO-Hell.

I was in middle school when Captain Planet first aired, my idols were John Lennon, JFK, FDR, Lincoln and Washington. I couldn’t stand politics and I hated Captain Planet with a passion, it was horrible and unredeemable. No merit badge.

Something to make @Zombie squirm like never before. Fox News is backing CNN against the President.

Must be a head fuck for someone like poor Zombs when the partisan media that tells you what to think comes out and says the opposite of what you've been saying.

Doesn't bug me in the slightest.

Media won't win in court. Courts can not force POTUS as head of the executive branch to let someone on White House grounds or to even hold a press conference.

Unfortunately, no. A lot of Trump supporters have reached "in for a penny, in for a pound" levels of support. Now it's all in or nothing. He could kill a puppy on live TV, and his supporters would explain his very good reasons for doing so. This will not concern them, as Trump is in the right for them. He's a Force for Good™ in their eyes.

Obviously the puppy held the soul of FDR in it.

Does none of this concern you?

Seriously?

No.

Why would it? Acosta has been acting like an idiot for two years. He reached the end of the line and was given the boot.

CNN still has dozens of reporters that have hard passes and access to the White House. CNN hasn't been stopped from reporting. It's reporters are still entering the White House. Except for Acosta. His reporting hasn't been stopped either. He will just have to join the thousands of reporters around the country who also don't have hard passes or access to the White House.

These reporters have grown to believe that they are above everyone else. They're not.

Perhaps. But the basis of the suit is the First Amendment. It's interesting how you're willing to overlook First Amendment concerns when it suits you. But Second Amendment? Oh boy...

So you don't see any issue in the head of the executive picking and choosing who can ask questions? You don't think it sets a precedent - a non-American one at that?

Okay, assume I know very little about this guy (it's true, I don't).

What exactly has he been doing to qualify as an idiot?

Acosta’s First Amendment rights have not been harmed.

CNN’s First Amendment rights have not been harmed.

There is no legal right to have access to the White House. Just ask the thousands upon thousands of reporters in America who have no access to the White House.

When POTUS bans a whole group of people, like all of CNN, then you can complain. I’ll be there with you.

Right now? It’s just fake outrage from you.

So based on your opinion that no First Amendment rights are breached, you'd be ok with Trump banning every senior CNN journalist until they're only left with Jimmy Olsen style junior reporters to send in?

He is accused of the heinous crime of "grandstanding".

What is wrong with you?

Acosta was banned over his behavior.

No one else from CNN who has a hard pass and works in the White House has been banned.

As I said above, "When POTUS bans a whole group of people, like all of CNN, then you can complain. I’ll be there with you."

Stop with the fake outrage.

Well hang on. You were making it all to be about legalities and legal rights not having been breached. So why would you be against more being banned if their rights (in your opinion) aren't breached? How many is too many?

Actually, CNN as an organization has absolutely zero right to White House access. Trump could ban CNN completely and there's nothing illegal or unconstitutional about it. There would be much butthurt, and screaming and bitching, and CNN could file another 20 frivolous lawsuits if they wish, but ultimately they're going to be tapping on the windows begging to be let back in.

In case you missed the question first time around, what behaviour exactly?

So if Obama had banned every Fox journalist from the White House, you would have had exactly the same attitude?

I do wonder if his best legal attack would have been exactly that. It was defamation, another thing that represents a limit on the first amendment I think.....

How is denying a press pass an infringement on the first amendment? CNN can still report whatever they want on the President without being at the white house. They can also send another correspondent to represent them at the press ggaggle.This lawsuit is ridiculous. Is it a dick move? Yes. But not law breaking

Reminds me of Brennan imprisoned and muzzled in his jail cell at Guantanamo where he claimed Trump was stifling his free speech.

Oh wait, I meant from his pulpit at CNN.

Assuming that was aimed at me, I never claimed it was. I said defamation laws represent a legitimate limitation on the first. Bringing such limitations up (and countering them) has been a theme for several posters for a few days, a meta thread thing.

Sorry for the confusion.

If Trump enacted a broad brush ban as you phrased it "every senior CNN journalist" then that would be a very serious First Amendment violation. Trump banned one particular reporter in this incident.

indeed, Trump even said something along the lines of "I can't believe CNN lets you work for them" so the beef isn't with CNN, it's with Acosta.

Why would it be a first amendment violation? Your co-tribalist Zombie says otherwise.

The question has already been answered, dickless. You're not gonna get 20 responses just because you have me and others on ignore and can't see our answers.

Well, that's one.

Here's two.

Next?

It wasnt aimed at anyone in particular. It was just a question I had concerning CNNs reasoning for the lawsuit. The whole press room ritual is really a courtesy that started in the 50s. Over time it has become a tradition that everyone has become used to eg:the state of the union. There is no law stating that the White House HAS to do it and simple press releases to AP would fulfill the "freedom of the press" requirement. How that would look politically and what effect it would have on an election is a whole different matter of course .

Granted trump is worse, but it is not like Obama gave access to every news organization out there. Every president has been selecting what "reporters" get to ask them questions for a long time now. Trump is a spoiled child who is obvious in his restrictions, but the press who gains access to the president has long since been chosen from the people who know when to stop asking difficult questions and prying for answers. They know what subjects to ignore and what distractions they can go with. You do not get in these rooms, even as the opposition propaganda, by being a journalist. You get in there by being a tool of the president. Don't think Obama was not there. He just went with the old school method of putting murphy brown style reporters into a closet and locking the door like Bush and Clinton before him.

Trump is just obvious about all of this shit. Yes, it is great CNN finally had a hard question, but Megyn Kelley has been more hard core with twitler.Calling CNN talking heads a journalist is like calling a McDonald's burger cook a chef.