Arrogant Officer Can't Shut Up; Threatens to Kill a Man

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  1. Captain J

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    The cop needs to be in jail. For a long time. The same as any other citizen who had committed the acts he did. Losing his job is not enough.
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    Of course given the state being Ohio one never knows.....
  3. Zombie

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    :wtf:

    Did we watch the same video?

    What the cop did was wrong and he should be fired but he did nothing to warrant jail time.

    At the most you could possibly charge him with assault (verbal) but even that is a slap on the wrist.
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    Assault, abuse of power. Battery should be added in as he had no grounds to touch let alone handcuff him.
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    :rolleyes:

    Go find a real lawyer.
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    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    Wouldn't be the first time. Here in Augusta a homeless guy had a gun in a bag and was sitting alone unhandcuffed in a police car. The cops shoot him when they percieve the threat of the man with a gun - total FUBAR.

    http://www.topix.com/forum/city/augusta-ga/TOHA5ORHC163FA77T

    Here's a real-life story about my Army bud's kid using police ineptitude to his advantage:

    Kid gets arrested for armed robbery at the fairgrounds, robbing a drug dealer. While he's cuffed and alone in the car, he sees a log book.
    He has enough mobility to flip through the book, and guess what? It's the drug squad's list of suspects, informants, addresses, upcoming operations, basically all the intel the drug squad would ever need. Leaking this information would cause catostrophic damage. I can't remember for sure, but the kid either tore pages out of the book or remembered enough to prove he wasn't bullshitting that he indeed saw their classified info. Yeah, you know where this is going:

    come time to strike a deal (flipping, plea bargain, etc) the kids defense attorney lays the little "compromised info" bombshell in the police department's laps. So either they cut the kid the deal of the century or the police department gets epic humiliation and investigations, etc.

    Kid went from a possible 15 year sentence down to "time served" for the month or so in jail for pre-trial confinement. He does have the felony still on his record, there's no wiggle room there. You can't cover up the fact that the crime did indeed occur, he just didn't get punished for it, and walked away free.
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  7. Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee

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    The second cop seems about as aggressive as the subject of his partner's abuse. In other words, he seemed scared of his partner.

    Makes you wonder what he's seen him do.
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    Yes, a felony on your record is rough, but not being in prison beats being in prison. And yes, he is very limited in employment considering almost everyone requires you to bring in (at your own cost) a background check from a local law enforcement agency.

    BTW if you've ever wondered if there are any open bench warrants hanging over you, you will find out soon enough.
  9. Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee

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    In this video, Officer Harless removes a drunk driver from his front seat, and then puts him in another seat in a vehicle without searching the vehicle. There is a gun at the guy's feet in his new position.

    Furious about his own stupidity, Officer Harless tells the driver he is furious because he's "Sitting there talking to someone who has a gun! That makes me mad. That sends me not home tonight!"

    The officer did nothing wrong here as far as threatening to kill anyone, but it just goes to show that he is incompetent. He consistently mishandles traffic stops and consistently endangers he and his partner through stupidity.

    http://www.cantonrep.com/video/x1704353901/Harless-behaving-badly-again

    Is it SOP to put a drunk back in their own vehicle? Is it SOP to do so without inspecting it? Why not put him in the police cruiser?
  10. enlisted person

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    You should not have to have a permit to have a gun in a country where you have the RIGHT to bear arms. I am in 100% disagreement with concealed carry. Its the anti gun people's dream. Bearing does not mean hiding.
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    The thing about carrying them in the open is that it tends to freak people out.
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  12. Sean the Puritan

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    Not really as much as you think.

    Someone walking around nicely dressed with a holstered firearm acting totally normal makes people much less nervous than you think.

    Then again, I'm in Arizona, so the culture is quite a bit different from the rest of the country, I guess.
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  13. Elwood

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    Yes. As you know, my Wife is from there. She grew up around people carrying openly. It's nothing to her. However, back here, we still get calls on Police Officers carrying openly in plain clothes despite their badge being right next to the gun on their belt. It's going to take a generation or more to change that mindset.
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  14. Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee

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    Carrying a weapon openly should be our right. However, it goes against my school of thought.

    The reason is that it is a statement. It says, "I can kill you." Most likely, this will stop a large number of confrontations. Conversely, it escalates the level of force in confrontations that do happen. If I am confronted and someone does not know I have a firearm and they have somehow broken through the 21 foot zone, this allows me do surprise them.

    And guess what? If I need to use my weapon, I'll take all the sucker punches I can get in. I will not have caused such a scenario and I will take all the help I can get surviving it.
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    Yeah, you wouldn't want to try carrying openly around here. You'd have panicky soccer moms blowing up the 911 switch board, and end up on the evening news. "Local handgun scare! Are your children in danger?!? Details at 9."

    :brood:
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  16. Tex

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    This is a very confusing post... I've never had to go to a local police station and get a background check done on myself and bring the results to a potential employer.

    It doesn't really make sense, the reason HR departments or companies they outsource the work to, run their own back ground checks is so that you have no chance to fake the results.

    And I'm not 100% sure of this but I don't believe there is a way to look up the majority of open bench warrants (other than for traffic tickets and other small unpaid fines). Yes there are certain ones on each city and counties website for the most wanted people, but those people already know they have a warrant out. You can look up traffic warrants because it's not really a dangerous crime and you knowing there is a warrant out will the majority of the time lead to you taking steps to fix it. But if you have a felony warrant out they aren't going to put that out there for you to just go look up because then they have given you incentive to hide from them. They want to snag you without you seeing it coming after running your license plate or by showing up at your door randomly. If you know there is a felony warrant, and the reason I specify felony is because that tends to be a more serious criminal, you are either not going to be at home to find or you'll be armed and waiting, or more likely to be armed and waiting at least.
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  17. Captain X

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    ND isn't liberalsville even remotely, but even around here something like that would get noticed as being out of the ordinary, and there's at least a 50% chance that the cops would be called.
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    I'm a gun guy, and a few years back I saw a guy at the beach wearing a holstered sidearm and it gave me a moment's pause. :unsure:
  19. Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee

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    What did you think about during the pause?
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    Yeah.

    The guy's gun, or his pistol? :ramen:
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    . To hell with them yankees!
  22. Zombie

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    Yeah.....

    Don't try that in Florida. If they made open carry legal here we can expect to still get calls, "OMFG he has a gun!!! We're all going to die!!!"

    :lol:
  23. MikeH92467

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    That's cause we got too many Goddamn Yankees who wouldn't know which end of a gun which is the business end. A few years back, a black, liberal lawyer acquaintance of mine said he had come around from being a gun grabber to just believing we'd be better off giving everybody one. I haven't gone that far, but I have seen what happens when a small, isolated community tries to ban guns. It doesn't work...

    As far as Officer Asshole...well...getting himself killed would be a reflection of Darwin at work. Too bad that he's in a position where he could take other people with him. I've got LEO friends who probably would like to go Code Red on that shit for brains....
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  25. Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee

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