Atlanta mass shooting targets asian massage parlors

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  1. Tererune

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    I cannot claim to be as familiar with all the vietnamese alternatives, but the pho soups are just awesome. I know Japan has some similar things with hot pots, but vietnamese got on my list because it is cheap, healthy, and filling. For the cost of a extra value meal at mcdonalds I can get this huge bowl of soup with all sorts of fish and meats in it. I do not even know why people go to mcdonalds anymore. When I was at school for cosmo the kids would walk by the vietnamese place to get mcdonalds and then complain because of their weight. Are you kidding me? Even after the tip I paid less, ate more, felt less weighed down, and was so much more healthy.

    Shit, even even the japanese rolls are cheeper than Mcdonalds. I can get a california roll, miso soup, and a drink for less than most extra value meals in mcdonalds. The only thing that pops me over the mcDonalds cost is I love some hot sake with the meal. Yes, the nice cuts of sushi and sashimi can be really expensive, but you do not have to have those.

    I should have been asian.
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    Yea, best to do nothing and continue to allow children to live in terror and give them armed intruder drills.
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  3. oldfella1962

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    okay let me explain this one more time:

    1) The investigation is still ongoing. The killer claims this is not racially motivated. Not saying you can trust whatever a killer says, but he might know his own mind better than we do.
    2) I don't know where you live (or how much you notice criminal activity) but here in Georgia the majority of massage business that are busted for providing sex (yes undercover cops do check out allegations & complaints) are Asian owned & staffed. That's not my opinion that is reality here in Augusta Georgia so most likely Atlanta Georgia is the same way.
    3) "Shame on everyone" for facing reality? :shrug: All races & ethnicities can be sex worker masseuses, but here in Georgia the overwhelming majority end up being Asian.
    Most white collar crime million dollar embezzlers are white. Most armed robbers are black. This is the reality (damn that word!) :shakefist: here in the state of Georgia. I can't speak for the rest of the country.
    4) Atlanta is a major hub of national and international human trafficking which would encompass in many cases (could be this tragic case but then again maybe not) women being exploited and being forced to work against their will to pay back "debts" to human smugglers, pimps, and other bad actors depending on the situation.

    Do you think you have a good grip (no pun intended) on the "happy ending" Asian massage connection now? Hope I could help.
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  4. Tererune

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    On this point. Can you explain to me how he managed to kill 6 asian women in the middle of fucking georgia without actually hunting for asian women. Even if you claim they were the sex workers he knew it is still racial because for whatever reason he only knew asian hookers. You actually would have to look for asian hookers to shoot that many asian hookers.

    He can say all he wants that race was not a motivating factor but the evidence is fucking blatant because you actually would have to avoid a ton of white, black, and hispanic women and hookers to hit the asian ones in the middle of georgia. He did not do this in hong kong. It would be easier to believe it wasn't racial if he had shot 6 black women in georgia.
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  5. steve2^4

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    If this isn't your opinion then you should be able to provide sources.
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    I'm sorta ashamed you feel the need to speak for GA. Again, cite your sources or shut the fuck up.
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    steve2^4 Aged Meat

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    What does this have to do with the 3 massage parlors that were attacked. Again, cite your sources.

    Here's an article (also attached as PDF) about some of the victims:
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    Now would you please spend as much time talking about the shooter. I'm sure you can speak for him too.
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    The inevitable consequence of "anti-Asian hate crime" hysteria:

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    :facepalm: damn I should be awarded an honorary dental degree, because trying to explain this is like pulling teeth. If neckbeard is a shy nerdy white guy (odds are he is) it's probably a lot less threatening to go to a massage parlor that gives sexual services than to find street walking or escort service hookers where it could be a setup and he gets robbed and beaten up. As for being "in the middle of Georgia" he was in fucking ATLANTA! I'm quite sure you are aware that Atlanta is a big city with white, black, hispanic, asian and pretty much every other ethnicity. But other than asian, no other ethnicity has a shitload of massage parlors that offer discreet but limited sexual services. Yes other ethnic groups run massage parlors, but few offer sexual services. Here is a link that may help:

    Attacked spas had been targeted by prostitution stings - StarTribune.com
    "Police in both Atlanta and Cherokee County said they were investigating if the killings could be considered hate crimes. Seven of the victims were women — six of Asian descent — and the gunman targeted the massage businesses despite a strip club and lingerie stores nearby.

    According to a 2019 report written by a group of academics, public health experts and community organizers, employees in massage businesses that illicitly offer sex often ended up working there because they had few options to pay off the tens of thousands of dollars they owed smugglers or to support parents or children back home in countries like China and South Korea."

    Does this explanation help clear things up? I hope so, I'm running out of ways to say it.
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    So your short answer is: Women who work in massage parlors, regardless of ethnicity, regardless of whether they offer "happy endings," deserve to be targeted by creepazoids like the suspect?

    Just so we're clear on where you stand on the issue.
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    Wow, you say he actually targeted asians, but he was not targeting asians. OK, you are just trying to excuse racism yet again. You are doing it for neckbeard. I have been to atlanta, and you have to hunt to shoot 6 asian women while not killing a ton of others. even you admit he went to places where asian women worked to shoot them.
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    damn Tererun you are not this fucking stupid. So here is my last attempt to explain why neckbeard's victims may have happened to be Asian. The investigation is still ongoing of course:

    1) neckbeard probably doesn't like confrontation. Trying to solicit sex from strangers who may be hookers (dressed ultra sexy or whatever in known areas of prostitution) but are not prostitutes is very
    confrontational and will end up with neckbeard getting his ass whipped or worse. Do you think a proud black businesswoman being accused of being a hooker would be smooth sailing? I think not.
    2) neckbeard likes sex! He likes sex too much and thinks he has a problem. I think neckbeard is full of shit and a dangerous killer.
    3) many (not all) Asian run massage parlors provide safe, discreet (but not legal) sex for money. My link says the spas he attacked had been previously investigated for prostitution.
    4) neckbeard was targeting sex workers (or whom he thought were sex workers) who happened to be Asian * BECAUSE MASSAGE PARLORS PROVIDING SEX ARE RAN BY ASIANS IN GEORGIA
    THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE TIME. NOT TOO MANY BLACK, WHITE OR HISPANIC MASSAGE PARLORS PROVIDE SEX.
    5) neckbeard could find Asians in an Asian restaurant if he wanted to target Asians. But Asian restaurants don't provide sex for money like the massage parlors do.
    6) nobody else here on wordforge seems confused about the whole Asian massage spa/sex for money situation.
    7) google is your friend, but any search engine would provide you with adequate information about the Asian massage spa/prostitution situation.

    * two white massage parlor workers were killed too - maybe you missed that part of the news
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    No Russian massage parlors in Atlanta? You're missing out. ;)
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    So a strange thing in this is that a hispanic man was detained at the first scene for four hours. He was in cuffs and in the back of a police car. The timeline shows that the police had identified the shooter, he had hit again, and they were persuing him and still left this guy in cuffs for an hour as a victim of the shooting. They also did not tell him his wife had died during this time. You can watch the video for some more details.

    On one hand I want to give the police some credit in this was probably a stressful and exciting 4 hours given the timeline and how new attacks were coming in while they were dealing with the first shooting. The police also did react quickly enough to stop a third location and fourth shooting. I consider the second and third one location to respond to as they were next to each other. That was some quick police work given the shooter was moving for more and they did not know which direction and if there would be more incidents until the second shooting. OTOH this police department clearly has some flippant attitudes towards minority victims considering what they said to the press. That shows that perhaps a flippant attitude was present towards a victim where that victim was made much more tragic by neglect and possible malicious abuse.

    This goes more to the meaning of defund the police. If the police had dedicated people to watch out for detainees this might have been prevented. If you take a person into custody perhaps we should have certain officers trained to respond to those people's needs while being detained. Just four hours without a bathroom break would be a nightmare. Couldn't someone on the scene be responsible for the detainees while the other police do their jobs? That person watches over the detainees, keeps track of them, gets them some water and bathroom breaks. They make sure they are not having a seizure, or in need of medical attention. They are also a point of contact for those who might be innocent victims. Thatr officer could check in with the commanding officer to see if they could take the cuffs off, and they could get the contact information from the victims. They could recognize that guy had a wife in the melee and at least present him with the news and be trained in how to be responsive to a victim while still detaining them.

    Defund the police becomes a terrible name because it invokes an idea that we are shrinking police ability to respond when really we would be expanding the ability of police to respond properly to different situations. I get the police were probably excited and stressed trying to catch a roaming shooter and this may have caused this guy to be overlooked. Maybe we should recognize someone needs to be present who's concern is the detainees and innocent victims.
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    Everyone has a breaking point, and without knowing everything (and we won't), it's impossible to say how enabling his parents were. Maybe they were and figured a clean break would fix things. Maybe they weren't and were fed up with his behavior. I draw the line at blaming them for their son murdering several people. :shrug:
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    There's a lot of room between "completely blameless" and "blaming them."

    His dad is a lay pastor at the SBC he was baptised in.

    He was enrolled in a local christian addiction treatment center for sex addiction at least once more than a year ago. I doubt he paid for that himself.

    His parents were avid hunters and gun owners.

    I agree with the 14th doc. I'd go farther and say his parents had a strong role in shaping him. They managed to take a kid with an active sex drive and turn him into a self loathing monster.
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    Speaking of American gun violence, I'd like to know what the hell I've been watching in Youtube as their algorithms recommended this to me:

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    :wtf: I hope they put the word out before they started filming this! Side note Mel Gibson was here in Augusta filming an action/spy movie a couple of days ago and they had to close off some streets and warn people to ignore the sound of gunfire. :dayton: Bitch seriously? This is Augusta, that ship has sailed a long time ago.
    Yes those youtube algorithms have some deep seated issues - just sayin'
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    Avid hunters and gun owners? :lol: Yeah, not too many of those in Georgia, or lay pastors. So shouldn't this be happening on a weekly basis then? :shrug: Yet it's not - isn't that weird?
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    I'm sure there's a term for the logical fallacy you're indulging in here; I'm just not sure what it is.

    "A cannot possibly have caused B unless all instances of A cause B."
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    whatever Einstein - I know shitloads of people who own guns and hunt and this has shit-nothing to do with neckbeard's seriously fucked-up brain. Ya don't like guns Steve - we get it.
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    I'm not Steve, and despite not having any desire to own one, I don't really have a problem with guns. It's the fetishization, combined with the virulent opposition to even the most basic attempt to make sure dangerously unhinged people can't get them, that I don't like.
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    who on wordforge thinks mentally unstable people should have access to guns? So far the total is ZERO as far as I know. :shrug:
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    I don't like or dislike guns, any more than hammers.

    It's people who think they have to have guns that give me the creeps.

    Carpenters and mechanics, not so much.
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    Lose the avatar.
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    Non sequitur.
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    Ok, here is your reward.