BREAKING!! Two explosions, casualties at Boston Marathon

Fox's current coverage says five devices were found only two of which went off. They're also saying police are questioning a "person of interest" who was on the scene and who had burns but they don't know if he's involved or just a bystander.

Absolutely terrible news, those poor people.

Dude is clearly not up to speed on his Burt Reynolds movies from the seventies.

I suppose it's such a hard balance to get, between reporting and providing information (and seeing for yourself is as accurate as you can get), encouraging morbid obsession for gore and perpetuating the terror.

But I think it desensitises people.

I tend to think this wasn't an Al Qaeda or large Muslim terrorist organization attack, for the simple reason there's been no claim of responsibility. It sure points to a loner or small group, so it might be an individual 'inspired' by such shitheads, but not working directly with them. It seems more likely based on the timing of the anniversary of the McVeigh attacks to be a militia related attack, but we'll have to wait and see. As no evidence has been forthcoming, all we can do is speculate.

As horrific as the attack was, I was thinking almost immediately that if it had been that style an attack it would have been worse - the bomb makers for these large groups are far more sophisticated, and the death toll in such a crowd would have immediately been in the dozens, assuming you could identify what was left as discrete individuals.

Let's hope the terrorist made a mistake and the feds have a path to follow to catch him.

The more I read about the bombs being packed with ball bearings and razor blades, the less I think this was domestic right wing terrorism. I could see right wingers attacking a government building, say an IRS building, but not civilians gathering at an event. The Boston Marathon is an event unto itself, international in scope. Who has ever associated it with taxes or government? It's not like only Massachusetts Democrats run in it, there are plenty of conservative runners. I'm betting that the public nature of it makes it an easier target than say, the Super Bowl.

I could be wrong, but I'm calling terrorism of Islamic variety.

Might be.

But if so it's breaking with a lot of previous patterns.

The one thing I don't understand is why they then wouldn't claim responsibility - they generally have very specific political goals that they are advocating, external to the US.

I think if it's an Islamic fundamentalist terrorist, its a loner that hasn't been in contact with a group overseas.

Because that group wouldn't definitely be crowing about it right now.

Half of you said the same thing when bombs went off in Oslo two years ago.

Turned out to be a Norweigan facist.

At the end of the day nobody knows yet who it was. It's a testament to the post 9/11 media and politician influence culture that as soon as there's an attack the first word that enters the head of Americans is "muslims".

Could be Islamic extremists, but then it could be a twisted Christian fundementalist, a conservative nutjob who sees Boston as a liberal haven, or a lone attacker (much like the London nail bombings in the nineties).

At the end of the day, we don't know until more information is found out. For that reason, it's silly to speculate.

One never knows. We could be entering a new era of terrorism where the goal is simple politically motivated revenge. Not advancing any kind of agenda. With no claims of responsibility.

This is actually the kind of terrorism I could see being directed at the United States as terrorists decide that the U.S. "never changes" and seek simple retribution rather than attempting to influence policy.

Hmmm.... the police, feds and others swarmed the Revere building last night, took out several bags of evidence.

http://bostonherald.com/news_opinio.../boston_cops_feds_descend_on_revere_buildings

They've confirmed it was related to the bombing:
http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/explosions-boston-marathon-finish-line-18960342#.UW1CVLXvjTo

Nobody claimed resposibility for the 7/7 bombings immediately afterwards. It was just a group of internet influence kids who saw themselves as a psuedo al-qaeda cell.

Their video claoming resposibility didn't come out for ages. In fact, I think it took days for the Madrid bombing's claim to come out as well.

I don't think anything can be ruled out right now, it's all just pure speculation.

The speculation makes me laugh actually. One of the taboids over here is whipping people into a frenzy because of a photograph of a "mystery" person on a roof while one of the bombs went off.

The fact that law enforcement has possession of unexploded devices is a huge deal.

I think these motherfuckers are going to get caught.

On the plus side, the wounded were sent to some of the best hospitals in the world. I suspect any further deaths will likely be from post operative infection rather than the actual injuries. I think we'll have a sense within the next day of weather this will get worse. No doubt there were dozens of amputees, though -- a low death toll doesn't mean much regarding the number of shattered lives.

The injuries are horrific. It sounds like those devices were constructed to create maximum human damage. In that way, they're very similar to the IEDs in Afghanistan and Iraq. Take that for what you will.

All of these posts are just speculative, which is fine as an intellectual exercise. I tend to agree with your thinking, but I do see a possible domestic angle in that it's a major international event. Some of the black helicopter/agenda 21 types might see it as a target.

As much as I despise Muslims, so far the evidence seems to point to homegrown terrorism. And while fuckheads like Turdin furiously masturbate to the idea that right-wing tea baggers were behind these attacks, right-wingers do not target innocent civilians, and instead they normally go after government facilities like in OKC.

I don't give a fuck if the perps are white, brown, right, left, Christian or Muslim....I want them to spend the last few hours of their lives in agonizing pain for what they did.

The good news is every major muslim group in the country has condemned the attacks no matter who did them or what their motivation was; the bad news is Jihadi groups including this one in Jordan have praised the attacks.

http://www.naharnet.com/stories/en/79640-jordan-extremist-praises-deadly-boston-bombings

The bastard praising the tax day bombing in Boston was previously convicted of an attempted terrorist attack in 2003 but was already out of jail.

I'm sticking with my initial call of Mooninites.

My second guess is lone wolf muslim.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik

Just sayin'.......


Someone from any backrgound is capable of this, if they're twisted enough in their beliefs.

The injuries are horrific, but this was a simple, unsophisticated IED, not one like those used to attack armored vehicles in Iraq and Afghanistan, which are orders of magnitude more powerful. Those are often created out of old artillery shells and primed by Simtex or C4. This was a small shrapnel bomb that weighed a few pounds and did not use advanced explosives. This was a very simple bomb.

The reason it appears so horrific is this is one of the few times most western civilians have been exposed to the damage they cause.

I still don't know who did it but international terrorist groups almost always claim ownership of terrorist attacks because doing so advances their fame and publicizes their political agenda. That hasn't happened here so either it is a new group or a lone wolf who isn't concerned with publicity the way the established international terrorist groups are.

I'm tentatively leaning towards this being some domestic anti-government extremist(s) but it could be an Islamic group so we just don't know. Those seem like the two main likely culprits.

'They' as in IEDs?

See the disconnect?


In recent years all the attempted attacks by Muslims have been lone wolf (Times Square, Portland, Seattle off the top of my head).

Right wingers also attacked the Olympics in Atlanta - the guy that did that was an anti-gay anti-abortion activist.

Could be anybody - the left has had more than their share of attacks as well, but there hasn't been much political chatter in that regard lately. Still, who knows.

There's another possible tie in as well - this running of the Boston Marathon was dedicated to the victims of the Newton shootings.

Specifically, the final mile of the Marathon, were this attack happened, was specifically dedicated to them, and many of the Newton families were there.

Considering all of the talk about how the second amendment types were going to kill people if the government came after their guns, and how many believe that the Newton attack was a false flag, it would be well within the possibility that this would be a motivation for an attack by some of the farthest right nut jobs.

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/nati...nal-mile-was-dedicated-newtown-victims/64250/

There's another possibility as well...it could be a person with no political agenda at all and just did it for kicks. Someone who just wants to watch the world burn.

Seems to me that old artillery shells would be a lot easier to find in Iraq than New England, but I could be wrong.

As for Muslims, lets not forget that we're still drone striking weddings in Pakistan, (according to Chad) so it's not far fetched to find a Muslim with motivation. I see speculation based on information far different than the fevered wanking that went ona few posts into this thread.

Or really hates running.

Yup. The Westboro Baptist Church has also praised the attack.

Where was Fatass Chad yesterday morning?

Considering the huge Cheesecake Factory that's about a block away, I doubt he could've made it to the bleachers.