British schools bending wayyyyyy over to Muslims...

They are stopping the teaching about the Holocaust and the Crusades to avoid offending Muslims along with other insane policies at the expense of their other students..

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3170/british-education-political-correctness#.UAQtSmOuuGk.facebook

Oh and before people start yelling about Muslim bashing..this is not attacking Muslims it's attacking the stupid Government officials who make these policies.

What starts with T and rhymes with reason...

This is what you get when you appease Islam. You have no one to blame but yourselves.

This thread is like THE EXPENDABLES for racists.

Eat another dick Mikey.

Be thankful you don't live in a muslim country, because they kill gays in those countries.

Whats racist about it? it's about the mostly lily white Government officials who do this out of their fear that if they don't there could be trouble..I bet most Muslims in London find this as stupid as anyone else would.

I can never comprehend the Total Logic Disconnection that exists somewhere in the brains of leftie twits that allows them to continually associate opposition to Muslim encroachment with "racism".

It's not even like the "four legs good two legs bad" robotic sheep mantra bleating. It's something a thousand times dumber. I don't even have a name for it.

Outrageous. Of course, the whole "faith schools" nonsense has gone way past the point of acceptability in the UK a long time ago.

No one should be forced to worship....ever.

I would also like to point out that nothing in the world is dumber than a gay Jew fighting the battles of a bunch of people who hate gays and jews, for them.

You know who else hated gays and Jews? Nazis! Yup. Shovelled em into ovens by the trainload. I think actress ought to come out on the street to support his local skinhead chapter, maybe throw a few Sieg Heils just for solidarity and all that. Going by his support for Muslims, that would be right up his alley.

Actormike is neither gay, nor supporting Muslims and you sound like a complete fool with your diatribe.

Grow the fuck up.

He's either gay or I'm mixing him up with one of the other posters. There is a cadre of extreme left-liberals on this board who are practically interchangeable, it's an easy mistake to make.

Drilling a bit in to the story and then further in to the sources, that's not really what happened. In learning about Islam, they participated in an exercise to demonstrate how muslem prayer takes place. That's not real prayer, or forced religion. I recall similar lessons in school regarding various cultural studies. Some regarded religious practice, some regarded what might be termed lifestyle practices. Teaching about religions through participatory demonstration is not the same as mandating religious affiliation.

Disagree - if they forced them to recite the words, that's unacceptable. Learning about doesn't require participating.

If they didn't require them to recite the words, simply their presence at a Mosque is fine - as long as the parents didn't request a waiver to avoid it.

You'd expect the same of a visit to a Church I'd imagine.

Seems like an actors' exercise, a "walking a mile in someone else's shoes" kind of thing.

Would these parents object if the drama society performed Romeo and Juliet because it was "teaching our kids to commit suicide"?

If their religious faith is so shaky that they're afraid their kids' merely reciting the words will magically turn them Muslim, well...

Great.

Then there's no problem reciting the Lord's Prayer when school starts.

Same thing, and if you don't accept that, you are engage in a rationalization of mammoth proportions.

It's only the same thing if you mean that during a study of Christianity, the students recite the Lord's Prayer as a demonstration of Christian practice. If, on the other hand, you mean that the prayer will be an observance that kicks off the day, then no, that's not remotely the same thing.

It is irrelevant. You can no more force a Christian to participate in a Muslim religious custom than you can force a Muslim to eat pork.

I'm sorry, but no Christian is going to want to say "There is no god but Allah and Mohammed is his messenger." and nor should they. You can learn about such things without being forced to recite it.

Plus, "In Cheshire, two students at the Alsager High School were punished by their teacher for refusing to pray to Allah as part of their religious education class." certainly sounds like they were forced to pray, not just recite something. And that just isn't right.

The UK generally doesn't go for Christians and Jews shoving their religion down people's throats so why do the Muslims get a pass? I've never heard of religious studies classes that involved students actually praying in them.

I take it you didn't follow the links to the source material Tamar?

Yes, I read it.

And making kids wear religious garb, get on their knees and pray or get a detention is just not acceptable.

Bullshit is bullshit Gul, doesn't matter that it leads to a link.

Tell you what.

Lets teach Muslims about Catholicism.

First thing we do is show them the experience of baptism. If they don't get baptized, of course that's a detention.

Then we'll have them undergo confession.

Then we'll have them take communion.

The lawsuits would melt down the public school system, and rightly so.

Of course, it would also lead to several Muslim kids getting beaten the hell out of because they blasphemed against Allah and his prophet. Or better yet, disowned and cast out.

Starting to understand yet?

You can't force a religious person to undergo the rituals of another religion. Its called 'religious observances' and for almost all religions it is specifically forbidden.

I think they need to introduce every muslim to malt liquor and pork rinds as part of a lesson or get detention. Fucking Pakis

Yep. Because the Crusades (particularly the Third) had no effect whatsoever on English history...

Yep. It's Friday night.

mmmm, pork rinds!

Religion, of whatever nature, has no place in schools, end of.

No child should be forced to "understand" the bullshit cultish beliefs of any religion.

Religion has played a significant role in history and cultural development. Like it or not, to understand world civilization requires an exposure to religion. Learning about religion is not the same as enforced worship.

Learning about the role religion may have played in history lessons has nothing to do with the promotion of religion in the present day. To teach history effectively you do not need to be involed with or exposed to the practice of any belief. For instance, you don't need to go to a church or mosque to learn about the crusades anymore than you need to visit a synagogue to learn about the holocaust.

What I am talking about is exposure to present day practices and religions as they currently are in society. I am not saying you cannot teach lessons about bigotry towards people who are identified by their religious indentities, but that is different from the promotion of the beliefs of religious groups. To me religion is a matter for children to make their own minds up on as they journey into adulthood.