Bullets for Ballots

Discussion in 'The Red Room' started by Tuckerfan, Mar 26, 2022.

  1. Jenee

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    The fucking Right has been on and on about black men have a higher crime rate than any other demographic. They don’t take into account all other factors like age, type of gun, who was the victim, who was the assailant, etc.

    Yet, you’ve also thrown that very broad generalization at me when discussing gun control as well.
  2. Uncle Albert

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    I don't care why someone else does what they do on some other tangential subject. That's an evasion. You want to discuss race-specific crime rates, start a different thread.
  3. Jenee

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    I’m talking about what stats you want and what stats you don’t want.

    You want to say “I have a right to my guns”. But, when bringing up cops shooting kids who look like they have a gun, you say “statistically speaking …”

    You can’t have it both ways.
  4. Uncle Albert

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    There are no stats I don't want. I have made it very clear that I don't want a dishonestly incomplete presentation of the facts to be used as an excuse to deprive me of my property.

    Don't pull a Dicknuckles. I've never said that or anything to that effect.
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  5. Jenee

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    Not those exact words, but it always comes down to the cops are just doing their job.
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    Uncle Albert Beep/Bop/Boop

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    Sometimes
    they are. Even a child can pull a trigger. It's not always a legitimate shooting, but if you won't consider the possibility, you concede the subject.
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  7. Jenee

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    My default is to side with the victim in any police encounter based on my personal experiences alone. In my opinion, cops are just grown ass hall monitors carrying a gun. They have little training for dealing with the populace and just want to throw their weight around and play with toys.

    And I have conceded when it turned out to be a justified encounter.
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    Just like every other alphabet agency, it seems like they've overstepped their bounds.
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    Kyle Rittenhouse and George Zimmerman disagree.
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    Assuming one person is the victim without knowing any details betrays a severe bias.

    Not sure what you mean by "training for dealing with the populace," but I don't want them trying to placate anyone's feelings or offering hug therapy while some lunatic is waving a weapon around. I want them identifying threats to public safety and removing them. If that's not the outcome you want, then they are not the ones to call.
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  12. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    You'd really have your hands around my throat this moment if your response to the 2020 George Floyd protests and the fascist goons who cracked down on them had been "colorblind".
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    It's usually a fairly chronic one.
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  14. Uncle Albert

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    It was. And you are the one who brought up color. Again.
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  15. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Sure.
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    Takes more than some weaselly insinuation to prove otherwise. But you won't offer details or make even a half-assed effort at supporting your contention.

    You could just stay in your "Discount Funny Man" wheelhouse, but that evidently doesn't get you enough attention.
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  17. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Boy, I sure am terrified of someone digging up your posts and proving me wrong.
    I hope that doesn't happen.
    I'm gonna have nightmares tonight.
    Oh no.
    :whew: :calli:

    Please, we all remember the long-ass thread of you cop-kissing.
    Sherlock away, kids.
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  18. Forbin

    Forbin Do you feel fluffy, punk?

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    First sentence at the link:
    A disease is an abnormal condition that negatively affects the structure or function of all or part of an organism, and that is not immediately due to any external injury.
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  19. Uncle Albert

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    No, no, fuckface. You make the accusation, you supply the proof.
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  20. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    I'll get to it.
    When I damned well please.
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  21. Uncle Albert

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    No, you will deal in lies, strawmen and weaselly insinuations because you are capable of nothing more.
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  22. steve2^4

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    But "in humans, disease is often used more broadly..."

    I think this is the angle the CDC follows. They track car accident statistics as well. I don't no what else, death by blender most definitely.

    source

    They study all causes of injury by violence. Not just guns.

    Here are some examples of funded firearm research (it's no longer prevented by law).

    https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/firearms/funded-research.html

    And car violence:

    https://www.cdc.gov/transportations...s://www.cdc.gov/motorvehiclesafety/index.html
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  23. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    UA being an authoritarian sack of crap, followed by everyone calling him on being an authoritarian sack of crap.
    Pages 264 to....269 it seems, then he runs away for awhile
    http://wordforge.net/index.php?posts/3351659/

    Now, authoritarian assbags are veeeerry sneaky, and slippery, and tippy-toe careful to not drop a slur word or an overt dog whistle.
    But they damned well make it about class.
    They sure as fuck do.
    As if that's any better.
    And anyone who breathes air in this country for 5 minutes knows the class structure was jury-rigged along race lines centuries ago.

    And everyone who's breathed air on the PLANET knows authoritarian states always punch down on minority groups.
    First thing they do.
    They sure as fuck aren't coming for the white rich old men.
    Unless they make life really difficult for other old rich white men, then they get chesspiece sacrificed like Bernie Madeoff.
    It takes a lot though.

    And just for shits and giggles....

    Outrage culture!!!!
    http://wordforge.net/index.php?posts/3355791/

    He sure is, past-me.
    http://wordforge.net/index.php?posts/3373747/

    Now, cue UA with "you can't find a post of me burning a cross and saying n-bombs!! You're full of shit!! Myeh, myeh, myeh!!" in 5...4....3...2....
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  24. Jenee

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    Nor do I believe either are justified. So fuck em if they don't agree. fucking murderers.
  25. Jenee

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    It is. But, at least I'm willing to admit when I do have a bias.

    You mean two lunatics waving a weapon around. The person of which the cops were called in the first place and the cop acting like people should just defer to his presense.
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    FTFY.
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  27. Bill Carson

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    So your statement that I quoted about how you have conceded when it turned out to be a justified encounter is a flat out lie then.
  28. Jenee

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    Neither has turned out to be justified. Legal proceedings in 2022 in the US are not a reliable metric for establishing if a shooting is justified.
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  29. Bill Carson

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    Facts don't care about your feelings. Both were justified and both juries agreed.
  30. Jenee

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    Facts don't care about your feelings. Nor the feelings of 12 jurers who's opinions are based on today's political climate. Neither shootings were justified.
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