CRT tangent from political meme thread and Cis tangent from Musk thread

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  1. MikeH92467

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    Of course, Texas isn't denying slavery happened, they just don't want to make sure students learn that it wasn't really all that bad.
  2. Steal Your Face

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    I also found this.
    Sounds pretty problematic and divisive which is exactly what parents have been saying. Let’s continue though.
    So again, like I said, there is not a text book that says CRT, but for all intents and purposes it is being taught in schools. Busted by its own proponents.
    https://educationpost.org/explained...and-how-it-shows-up-in-your-childs-classroom/
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    Did you come across this one? https://www.theguardian.com/comment...ical-race-theory-rightwing-bogeyman-left-wing
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    UA to others: you must provide specific concrete examples that provide a watertight case and a single technicality will invalidate the entire point.

    Also UA: LOL I FOUND A JPG
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  6. Steal Your Face

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    Yes I did. So what?
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    And VP Harris and Maxine Waters said the supposed whipping of immigrants was worse than slavery.
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    Wait, go back and explain why what you posted is problematic.
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  10. Steal Your Face

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    This is debatable and basically says, “blame whitey for everything bad in your life, you don’t have to take any personal responsibility for yourself.” It’s problematic and divisive.
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    Reality is problematic and divisive. What you're doing is blaming the people who point that out.
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    That's not what that says. I still recommend "Stamped From the Beginning" by Kendi if you want some historical context.

    Systems deserve the blame, not people. Systems can be changed, and should be if they aren't serving everyone.
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    It says no such thing.

    Standard question time: if the impact of historical inequalities aren't still felt today, and there is no systematic racism (noting that systematic racism can occur in systems where not a single individual is racist), then why are statistical differences still seen in living standards along white/black lines in the USA?
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    Has it been proven that our system is systematically racist?
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    Yes.

    In the capitalist market black people are statistically paid less.

    In the justice system, black people are imprisoned at higher rates.

    In the housing market, black people are more likely to have their homes undervalued.

    What do you think the reasons for those are?
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    I'm not sure how it could be proven or disproven. Maybe that's why it's called Critical Race Theory?

    But ask yourself some questions.

    Why do Blacks fall behind Whites in education? Why do predominantly black schools do far worse on average than predominantly white schools?

    Why do Blacks have a harder time buying and even selling homes than Whites?

    Why does 14% of the population make up 34% of the prison population?

    Why is it that Blacks have more health problems than Whites?

    Is it because Blacks are genetically inferior to Whites across the board (genetically predisposed to being dumber, more prone to crime/violence, addiction, sickly, etc), or could it be something else?
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    Sounds to me that you drew a conclusion first, then found things to fit your conclusion. There could a number of reasons why there are differences in living standards. You’ve already decided it has to be systemic racism and nothing else. Like I said, it’s debatable and therefore problematic and divisive.
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    But racist conclusions aren't, because reasons.
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    And we can prove systemic racism with phone videos of cop violence, and court records of shitty judges.
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    Read a history of red lining and the creation of the suburbs.
    Pure dripping liquid racism.
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    What might some of those alternative reasons be?
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    yeah... like this part, maybe?


    Critical race theory itself is not being taught in K-12 schools (unless you’re talking about some very advanced students!). However, the research and scholarship that inform CRT have greatly shifted how many education experts view our school systems.

    Critical race theory emerged in legal circles, but it has spread to other areas of scholarship and policymaking, including education. For instance, in our nation’s schools, we still have sizable and stubborn gaps in academic proficiency between white children and their Black, Latinx and Native American peers. CRT has been helpful to education leaders as they seek to disentangle the systems in our communities and schools that oppress students of color, and hinder their ability to thrive.

    By starting from the well-established fact that academic proficiency is not related to the color of one’s skin, critical race theory pushes policymakers to look beyond the individual students and instead look at the system around them. Shifting our language from “achievement gap” to “education debt” or “opportunity gap” is one step on the journey. In what ways have our systems of education, health and housing blocked opportunity for Black and brown children? How do we eliminate those barriers?
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    Yeah. That's the one. That was an own goal.
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    Not at all. In fact there are multiple people in this thread open to you sharing your alternative explanation.
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