Dead Dallas Officers: Happy To Be Here!

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  1. gul

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    Your making the claim is proof that he isn't.
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  2. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    He basically admitted it.
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    No, he didn't, and the claim came from some weirdo drug-user. Not even the far left-wing press gave the claim any credence.
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    Not talking about that. When he was asked point blank about cocaine use, he responded that when he was young and foolish, he was young and foolish. That is why I sad he practically admitted it. Unlike you, I don't rest my points on lies and fabrication.
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    From Obama's Dallas speech:

    But we know -- but, America, we know that bias remains. We know it. Whether you are black or white or Hispanic or Asian or Native American or of Middle Eastern descent, we have all seen this bigotry in our own lives at some point. We've heard it at times in our own homes. If we're honest, perhaps we've heard prejudice in our own heads and felt it in our own hearts. We know that. And while some suffer far more under racism's burden, some feel to a far greater extent discrimination's sting. Although most of us do our best to guard against it and teach our children better, none of us is entirely innocent. No institution is entirely immune. And that includes our police departments. We know this.

    Yeah, that anti-Native American bias pervades our police forces. And they're always busting on Asians, and Lebanese, and Egyptians. :jayzus:
    Oh wait, we did give an Egyptian totally unfair treatment in our legal system - when the Administration was using him as the scapegoat for Benghazi. :waiting:

    Heck, when the FBI had the co-conspirator in the slaughter of 49 people in the Pulse Nightclub, they just let her go. She's probably back home in Pakistan now. Wouldn't want to arrest a Muslim. It would be unseemly. :sigh:

    And so when African Americans from all walks of life, from different communities across the country, voice a growing despair over what they perceive to be unequal treatment; when study after study shows that whites and people of color experience the criminal justice system differently, so that if you're black you're more likely to be pulled over or searched or arrested, more likely to get longer sentences, more likely to get the death penalty for the same crime; when mothers and fathers raise their kids right and have "the talk" about how to respond if stopped by a police officer -- "yes, sir," "no, sir" -- but still fear that something terrible may happen when their child walks out the door, still fear that kids being stupid and not quite doing things right might end in tragedy -- when all this takes place more than 50 years after the passage of the Civil Rights Act, we cannot simply turn away and dismiss those in peaceful protest as troublemakers or paranoid.

    Yep. No homicide issues in Chicago at all. Nosiree Bob. Has ever looked at an FBI crime report?

    In the end, it's not about finding policies that work; it's about forging consensus, and fighting cynicism, and finding the will to make change.

    So finding policies that work is off the table. We must just forge consensus, stop thinking logically, stop questioning the Great Leader, and make some random, grabasstic change that won't do anything to solve the massive crime rates in the black community.

    That's what we must pray for, each of us: a new heart. Not a heart of stone, but a heart open to the fears and hopes and challenges of our fellow citizens. That's what we've seen in Dallas these past few days. That's what we must sustain.

    What we saw in Dallas the past few days was the aftermath of an angry black power racist who shot 11 policemen because he wanted to kill white people. He had already been making bombs to kill them long before any of the recent incidents took place.

    With an open heart, we can abandon the overheated rhetoric and the oversimplification that reduces whole categories of our fellow Americans not just to opponents, but to enemies.

    Maybe he should tell that to all the BLM people who are chanting "Pigs in a blanket! Fry 'em like bacon!"

    And he just went on and on in that vain.
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    No, that was in response to a question about marijuana.
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    Jesus Christ people the man read a kids book to children right after hearing about the trade centers being hit by planes. Of course he is going to dance at the funeral of slain police officers. I think we are pretty lucky that is all he did.
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    Barack did not. Perhaps he knew the ship had sailed?
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    What was he supposed to do? What could he have done that would make any difference.

    I've never respected people who demand "action" simply for the sake of appearing to do something.
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    Even at the height of my Bush hate, I found this to be a bullshit argument.

    He was already in the middle of reading.The towers were already destroyed, cutting the visit short wasn't going to change that. If anything, the rabid liberals would've pointed to that as him lacking the tact or decency not to scare a bunch of kindergarteners.

    Goddamn, of all the multitude of crap he fucked up, this shouldn't even register. :rolleyes:
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    Yep, that never bothered me, either. We're talking a few minutes of extra time that made no difference. Probably took that long for the secret service to figure out what to do with him anyway. Nobody knows how to react to something like that, and there is no "right" answer.
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    Plus, he had been given all the information that was available at the time and there was absolutely nothing else he could have been doing that would have made a difference in any way. If anything, his ability to stay composed and continue the visit was impressive.
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    I'd have panicked, too: "Hey Mr. President, it is quite possible the largest attack on U.S. soil has just happened, in New York, the heart of our economy, tens of thousands may be dead, global trade is at a standstill, the military is on highest alert, and now everyone is looking to you for answers."

    Fuck that.

    He was also sitting in front of a room full of children, so it's not like he could say "Oh fuck, everyone get the fuck out now before we all die!"
    To be honest, I think he handled it well, at least as well as I would have.
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    Have you seen some of his artwork? Of course it's dementia. Take solace that it happened after his presidency, unlike with Regan fuddling through his second term with half his brain gone.
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    I think a plane flying into the trade centers would be one of those moments where the president excuses himself to start the process of reaction, unless you have a clue you have some time. At the very least the secret service should be aware of the potentially deliberate act of flying a plane into a building and moved him to the shelter at the school.
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    I understand he cannot do much himself, but if you really do not know what planes are problematic you get him to shelter. Now if the trip is to get him out of harms way you could sit there in confidence a plane was not going to target the school he was in because no one who would be attacking really knew he was there until after. Given how they did it they would have had enough time to hit his location. The things I am concerned about are not about how he could save the day, but rather a rational safety move given the events.
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    And you know this how?
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    First accounts were that it was a small, single engine plane. I remember thinking a Cessna had hit the tower until several hours later.
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    I am not saying you run around like chicken little, but if you are the president you at minimum politely stop and get moving if you have no idea what is going on. It is part of your job so you pay attention to the big important thing especially when it is man-made.
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    That is what we hear. If that is what the president heard then those people who gave him information were wrong.
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    What could he realistically do at that point? By the time they informed him, I'm certain city, state, and federal agencies were already mobile. His role would come later, but for the moment, the President isn't in any kind of immediate position to do anything other than to receive the first wave of intel.

    Information gathering is imperfect. It's quite possible for initial assessments to be wrong.
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    You get to someplace secure and you start gathering info from the people you have in place for this.
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    That doesn't fall under his purview, though, that falls under the head of security to keep him safe.
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