Definitely not a concentration camp

Discussion in 'The Red Room' started by RickDeckard, Jun 13, 2019.

  1. Tererune

    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    I would never purchase trump brand trash. I make it my business to help people who cannot get to places like the DMV and local state offices to register to vote, and to get to vote with my resources. I try to bring people together and lift up those around me while confronting ignorance and lack of understanding. I support organizations I feel do good and provide services that help improve our communities. As for protesting I would attend some if they were around here, but they are not near me, and I can make a difference to people locally right now. If I am off shouting slogans at the capitol who helps the people in the trenches? I am not saying don't protest, but there is a need for local effort too.
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  2. Tererune

    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    I prefer subverting the effects of my opponents directly at the source. Open rebellion is nice, but going to the people in need has a direct effect and can be done anywhere.
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    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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  4. Tererune

    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    Exactly why is a follower of Jesus thinking helping people out is dumb @Dayton3 ?
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  5. Dayton Kitchens

    Dayton Kitchens Banned

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    I don't.
  6. Tererune

    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    Then why did you dumb rep my post?

    I know I am going to regret asking that
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  7. Dayton Kitchens

    Dayton Kitchens Banned

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    Because you continually make insulting posts and remarks about my family.

    besides which in the bigger scheme of things I probably give you more positive reps than anyone else here (when you post something I agree with of course).
  8. Amaris

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    Why not do all of those things? Anyone who can go down there and rescue people, anyone who can hide folks from the coming ICE immigration sweeps this weekend should do so, anyone who can get inside the camps and get pictures should. Protest the inaction of our congressmen. Share videos of enforcers harming people. Lots of stuff to do.
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    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    Amaris I have to agree with Tererun here - what kind of secret plan do you have to swoop in and save the day? Are you going to go all "A Team" on us? Yes I get that sometimes breaking the law might be the price to pay for saving people. But how would getting arrested or doing anything rash improve the lot of these folks? They already have plenty of advocates who are more experienced than anyone on wordforge.
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    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    @RickDeckard as John “Hannibal” Smith, @His Grace Faceman the Duke of Wordforge as Templeton Peck aka. Faceman, @Shirogayne as B.A. Baracus and @Amaris as “Howling Mad” Murdock.

    If you have a problem... if no one else can help... and if you can find them... maybe you can hire... The Wordforge Team.
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    https://wordforge.net/index.php?posts/3156727/
  12. Tererune

    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    I think I would watch that. I am actually finding the idea of @Amaris playing with his MLPs in front of @Shirogayne while @His Grace Faceman the Duke of Wordforge spikes her milk so they can get her on the plane to Texas rather amusing.
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  13. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Yes, I can totally see that.
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    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    If you're going to use "I broke the law because there was some moral imperative to do so," you probably need to back that up by showing there was no alternate lawful path available.
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    Sorry, did you mean to email that to the Oregon GOP?
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  17. Tererune

    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    Where is call for armed help from local militia, or is that only something white people get to do?
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    Good advice but I don't think ICE are going to hold to the warrant of entry requirement when the folk they're coming for will be effectively disappeared, along with any evidence of law-breaking. They and Border Patrol are drunk on power, knowing the POTUS will back up any depravity. That's why we have a DoJ lawyer this week seriously arguing that because the law about safe and sanitary confinement doesn't specifically say you get soap, you can rot in your own filth for weeks on end. Without sleep, because it doesn't specifically say that either. Hell, if they could argue that putting a round in the head of every inmate made them safer and more sanitary, I'm not convinced they wouldn't fucking try it.

    They don't even give a shit about abusing their authority when it's a US citizen (and a journalist) involved, so why would they worry about violating the rights of those they consider less than human?

    https://theintercept.com/2019/06/22/cbp-border-searches-journalists/

    Held in limbo and denied access to a lawyer whilst his privacy was invaded without a warrant. And this is a white US citizen.

    ICE/Border Patrol have become the Gestapo. They aren't going to knock politely on your door and respect your legal right to deny entry.
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  19. Steal Your Face

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    Dinner 2012 & 2014 Master Prognosticator

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    John doesn’t deal in facts, brother. That is how he can keep claiming communism is great and this time will magically be different from all the other times. ;)
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    Dems crying and sniveling about the long arm of the law catching up to criminals. :rolleyes:
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    Nope. Complaining about the law abrogating human and legal rights. Including those of a US citizen.

    Hey, next time you're traveling abroad, give us a heads-up, yeah? I'm sure we can leak to the authorities how you're a critic of the Trump admin and have a good giggle as they comb through your mobile devices for your social media history over the last five years.

    And I'm sure we wouldn't hear a peep from you about it, since these things are necessary to ensure the safety and security of the glorious White Nation that is the USA.
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    Nothing on that sheet promotes violating the law.
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  24. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    It gives guidance on how to avoid ICE. Don’t pretend otherwise.
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    Avoiding ICE is not illegal. Many of ICE's tactics ARE illegal.
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    It advises people of their rights.

    Aren't we all about due process? Innocent until proven guilty?
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    Doubtless CC will just quietly let the cops get on with it if they ever come for his guns.

    Wait, what am I saying, it's CC.

    There'll definitely be some pitiful whimpering.
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    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    That's what guns are for isn't it?

    Stopping overreach of government power.

    So when we see actual overreach (y'know, rather than just violating the 2nd) what happens? You got it! People make excuses, because it can't be overreach if the government are doing it, it's the law.

    However when it's actual enforcement of the law but on a GOP politician suddenly they're out in droves.

    It's almost as though the issue wasn't overreach at all.
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  29. Dayton Kitchens

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    whimpering isn't illegal. I do it all the time.
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    It gives excellent advice on how to deal with ANY law enforcement interaction.

    Why are you so against people exercising their lawful civil rights?
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