Defund the Police

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  1. matthunter

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    Look for the usual right-wing talking heads to argue that black folk should start speaking "proper English", despite the fact you fuckers pronounce herbs without the H and they let Trump off for all his word salads.

    Don't even get me started on aluminum. Is it uranum too? No. Sit the fuck down.
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    I hope the mayor of Portland gets gassed.
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    I love the dishonest presentation. This is why I don't trust third-hand accounts. Unless I am misreading something, she was in her vehicle, on the road, where you must be prepared to prove you are a licensed driver.

    "I don't have to because you didn't pull me over." FALSE.

    Cue some douchebag with no argument, making some brainless personal attack like "fascist bootlicker." :dayton:
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    speaking of some douchebag making a non argument...



    She wasn't the one who'd been stopped.

    It isn't that you misread something , it's that you didn't read anything.

    She stayed in her own car and the cop interfered with her.

    so, sorry but...

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    We know.
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    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    to put that in terms everyone can understand

    One ounce, 14 years ago, would at most have been worth about $200.

    that's what she died over.
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    Sounds like you were being overcharged for weed 14 years ago. :bailey:
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    To be fair, $200 Canadian was about $20 US, right? :ramen:
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    That's about what I paid 20 years ago. I think $25 for an eighth was standard.
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    about $150.

    but really, looking at the US weed maps (and factoring in quantity discount of about 25-30% from buying 28g rather than one of high quality) seems a little less. Like US$5.35/g



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    should've gotten a bit of a discount for the quantity :(

    but yeah, on it's own that's still the price today for an 1/8 (half a quarter in NFLD :D )

    There's a First Nation dispensary up the street from me now, with a 2 oz for $100 deal. not bad either... curing leaves a bit to be desired, but otherwise <3
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    Once again, assplow, your reading comprehension serves you poorly. I already noted the "wasn't the one pulled over angle," and it doesn't fucking matter. You're on the road operating a vehicle, you must be prepared to show your license.
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    Quantity discount matters. 20 years ago in S Alabama a QP was about $400. But quality was middling at best.

    In Quebec is a QP called a Royale? :baba:
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    Somethings can’t be reformed.

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    Of course it can be reformed. It may take firing every cop and replacing them with BLM activists, but it's absolutely possible.

    I really oppose this POV. Because if it can't be reformed, it has to be abolished, so what replaces government policing? We've seen that too, and it is not only as bad, it's worse. We've seen the Red Terror and the Freikorp and the Communist People's Committees. Or do you prefer private policing, like the Pinkertons, or what would be their equivalent now, Blackwater/Academei. That would give the rich even more power than they have now.

    No police? Yeah, that's not going to happen. Something will always fill that void, and in that case it would be organized crime.

    Defund the police is a bad slogan (even if I agree with the underlying policy), ACAB is beyond stupid, and oh by the way, this shit is what loses elections. Only 25% of the entire country claims to be liberal, 75% is moderate or conservative. And of that 25% of liberals, not even all of them are on board with that.
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    Full story, please.
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    It's in the link, you lazy fuck.

    Or do you mean "version of the story that I can use to condemn a diabetic grandmother and further abrade my tongue on the boots of the police"?

    I'm guessing the latter. Because you are indeed full.
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    Details without spin. I'll even use the linked article now that I'm not fucking with it on a touch screen.

    https://www.hellgatenyc.com/grandmother-arrested-filming-police/

    The greatest hits:

    "Patricia Rodney walked into the 62nd Precinct in Dyker Heights on December 2, 2020
    because she had lost her glucose monitor."

    "“The insurance company said, the only way you will get a replacement is to get this report from the police department,” the 61-year-old grandmother of three recalled."

    Lost it. Wasn't stolen. Wasn't the victim of a crime. Suffered from her own negligence, waited until it was an emergency and decided it was someone else's problem to solve. Predictably, the bureaucracy didn't jump when she said "frog," and we're off to the races.

    "Rodney was at the end of her rope: She’d already been told she could get the report here. Now she was getting the runaround. She dug in, telling the officer she’d been told to come back and get the report, and she wasn’t leaving the stationhouse until she got it."


    Stomping your feet and throwing a tantrum rarely gets you favorable results, I can attest.

    "“This is my camera,” Rodney replies, holding her cell phone. “I’m allowed to film.”

    Rodney wasn’t actually filming, she told Hell Gate. “But they were getting very hostile, and they were telling me that they were filming me, so I held my phone up and said, ‘Okay, I’m filming you.’”
    This appears to have been too much for the police surrounding Rodney in the vestibule. As luck would have it, she was standing directly in front of a sign that read “Members of the public are prohibited from audio/video recording or photography inside the facility.”

    "I didn't get my way, so now the rules don't apply to me." Is it a good rule? I can't see how. Probably rationalized with security and privacy concerns. Ah, here we go. Later in the article:

    "In 2018, the NYPD instituted its policy directing officers to arrest people who won’t stop recording inside of precinct houses. The policy was put into place after a man filmed himself taunting officers inside the 28th precinct house in Harlem and posted the video to Instagram. The NYPD doesn’t appear to have made any effort to square this policy with the city ordinance."


    Looks like that will, and should be, challenged in court. Court being the correct venue for such pissing contests.

    This wording makes it seem like they mobbed her, tackled her to the ground and broke her arm out of spite, carelessness or both:

    "“We’re asking you to leave, you’re not leaving, and you’re not allowed to record,” an officer says in the video. “Turn around.” With that, half a dozen cops close in around Rodney, and in short order, she is on the ground, screaming, as officers twist her arms."


    Let's see if the bodycam footage bears that out.



    Not a great angle, but she clearly tried to resist. You can argue that she should not have been arrested for breaking a dumb rule that probably won't hold up to challenge in court, but once the decision is made to cuff you and stuff you, the debate is over for that day, and it's time to let the lawyers do the fighting.

    Granny pass waived and no pity points for the diabeetus. If I had gone in there acting like that, they would have landed on me with both feet and stayed there until I stopped twitching.
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    Keep deepthroating that boot.
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