That's not my understanding of it, although I think that might depend some on how it is set. If Ancalagon or I have said something to make it seem otherwise, that's just a matter of us having an imprecise knowledge of how it functions or is configured. But John has mentioned in this thread that it's set to 11. So that should clear things up.
People are wanting specifics that I can't give. The Discourage function uses different tool sets in its operation.
The way it has been outlined in the OP is that it is algorithm specific to search out people who have returned under different IPs. How will you know if it targets the right person? Otherwise if you manually have to choose the target, what greater knowledge is it providing you with?
@Packard - @gul is correct. You can set it so that it causes anywhere from minor annoyances to major frustrations. I have it set to 11.
I'm not sure how that would happen, but since it is not a permaban, they could always ask what the fuck is going on.
For that matter, a person who gets trapped in another member's permaban can do that too ... and probably exactly the same way, by email.
His most recent dual got zapped for yet another porn spamming. His next one will be 'doscouraged'. If he reforms, plays by the rules, that can be lifted.
John says this is better. Plus it still allows him to post. If he gets better, stops breaking the rules he can taken off discourage. That is not possible with a permaban.
Doesn't sound like he'll have much of an opportunity to play by the rules, if artificially induced problems aimed at making his board experience more frustrating have been turned up to 11.
Because he's not supposed to be here. That he has circumvented the IP ban does not mean he should now get to play at his own discretion.
En passant, how the hell is frustrating someone on a message board as much as you can not trolling them?
John says he's not supposed to be here. Gul says the tool makes the board not exist for him. You say he can still post. Hence the confusion...
To follow up on what @Ancalagon posted, the whole point is to keep them from pulling the same shit they did before, but also giving them a chance to reform. No, they can't do much of anything with the discourage option, but they can talk to someone on staff about being allowed back in. Because trolling is when someone says something incendiary to elicit a reaction for entertainment purposes. This is a deterrent in order to prevent banned members from committing the same acts that got them banned in the first place.
This is not a bank and you aren't protecting money. If you are hiding things from the membership then that means you have no transparency and are dishing out secret punishments. You can't see the fundamental immorality in that? I am not asking to know it's mechanism because I want to circumvent it - I never registered a dual during my only proper ban and have no compulsion to do so in the future so knowing the mechanism is not my issue, it is the fact that things are being kept hidden that is the problem. I have a problem with the notion of members spending time in purgatory when they haven't done anything wrong.
Then at least pay us the intellectual respect of not repeating the part that doesn't make any sense without that additional information as if you expect us to suddenly agree with it.
This is a private board, and it is my job to prevent anything or anyone who sets out to disrupt it, from doing so. I am probably the most open and transparent person here, no offense, and I share everything I do, hence why you're in a thread talking about the thing upon which you insist I am keeping secret.
John means regular access is not his right as he has violated our rules to the point that he would otherwise be permabanned. We are lenient and have allowed him to come back, time after time. Everytime he eventually goes back to same old same old bannable offenses. This is an attempt to use the tools at our disposal to take care of that problem WITHOUT having o resort to a permaban.
Seriously? Permaban = gone, can't post. End of. With this we have a secret set of proof-less rules that may or may not stop someone from acting out, while at the same time could well target innocent long term members - who in turn would go through an unacceptable period of board disruption.
Ok, so you have a more narrow definition of trolling than I do. Replace "says" with "does", and you've described what you're advocating here. Trolling, pardon me: "frustrating" them is not going to encourage better behaviour; it never does.
Which they can also do if they're banned, right? I mean, anybody can send an email to the admin account. How do they have a chance to demonstrate they've reformed?
Again, not my understanding of how we have it set for Skrain. But I will say, whether it is strict or slightly permissive is not my main concern. My interest regards making an effort to discourage a behavior that the community has rejected. Whether he can post sporadically or not at all, the goal is to make him less interested in trying.
