Do you believe in any of the following...?

Albinism, duh.

Let me know when the stars accurately predict the future.

Take a fucking science class and learn about any of the scientific methods.

Possibly an idea based on oral traditions about the volcanic destruction of Thera, a Greek Island (now called Santorini) near the end of the Minoan Age. The eruption all but obliterated the island itself and the resulting tsunami may very well have innundated Minoan cities on the coasts of nearby islands, hastening the decline of the Minoan civilization and giving rise to the 'lost continent' that Plato first mentions.

Nonsense.

Tribal nonsense.

In other words, no amount of evidence will convince you otherwise.

Ok.

You're putting words in my mouth, and further demonstrating your irrationality.

I told you how one could prove psychic abilities. Use the scientific method. Repeatable results confirmed through accurate data gathering done in a controlled environment. People like James Randi have thought this thing out, go ask him how you can go about proving that someone is psychic if my answer is not satisfactory. There's a million dollars in it if you can prove it.

Wrong location. The location he gives is somewhere beyond the Straights Of Gibraltar.

Oh my God. So much irrationality.

Link.

No amount of evidence will convince him otherwise, either.

Assuming these things are true.

It's just as irrational to rely on nothing but pure science and pure logic. Science is not the end all and be all of wisdom.

Science will never be able to prove nor disprove the claims of religion. So all it can do is dismiss it. That's why there's such a conflict between them.

And science can not answer questions like where does life come from and how was it created?

Life came from outerspace? How it it appear or come from outerspace? Well, it came from an exploding planet. Well, how did that life appear on that planet? It came from outerspace.

Inasmuch as Plato heard the story about 1,100 years after Thera erupted (and it was relayed to him orally through the Greek Dark Ages when writing vanished for four hundred years), an error of Mediterranean geography is not hard to explain away.

Assuming it is an error. It may not be an error. There is no hard evidence to prove it is or is not an error, so either is an assupumtion.

That's not true. He's stated before that he'd be happy for someone to win the million dollars.

Read that sentence again, look up the definition of rationality, and get back to me.

Science has proven that humans are genetically likely to believe in such irrational things as God and the supernatural as a way to explain stuff that is inexplicable. But given enough time, science can explain nearly everything.

It can, but we're just not at that point yet. Until then, all we have are theories, which will be tested eventually.

Where did humans come from? God created them. Where did God come from? Humans created him.

Plato refers to a lost continent that was swallowed up by the ocean. As near as we can tell, there is no geological feature on planet Earth that corresponds to a recently lost continent.

The eruption of Thera and the resulting destruction to the Minoan city on that island are historical facts. That the mainland Greeks had contact with the Minoans is historical fact. That the Mycenean Greek civilization rose contemporaneously with the decline of the Minoan civlization is either fact or well-supported conclusion, depending on your threshhold of certainty. That the end of a powerful island-dwelling civilization to a volcano may have been handed down orally and emerged a millenium later as a continent swallowed by the ocean is conjecture, but it seems more likely than anything else.

It seems likely Plato's Atlantis was either (1) pure myth with no basis in any real event anywhere; or (2) an historical allusion to the Minoans, whose powerful civlization was, in a fashion, swallowed by the ocean (or so it would've appeared to the Greeks).

To Timmy's post:

Or maybe a flood done near the Dead Sea or... any number of several hundred locations Atlantis has been claimed to be over the years, with none of them really fitting the descriptions Plato caused. I believe but am uncertain that even Pompei was once thought to be Atlantis because of the volvanoe.

What a compelling argument.

I think you may have convinced me, but I need to check with my psychic and astrologist first.

Edit: fuck, they still say I shouldn't believe in supernatural mumbo-jumbo.

Just like when you posted yours.

Like I said, no amount opf evidence...

Pompeii erupted in 79 A.D., about five centuries after Plato. The ruins there are distinctly Roman in nature.

So? Doesn't negate that there was a claim by some people that thought Pompeii was Atlantis.

They were later proven wrong, yes.

The amount doesn't matter, only the quality.

Provide me with evidence that would hold up in a court of law or in a laboratory.

But even quality can be completely dismissed.

For example, the conflict over the cause of the erosion of the Sphinx.

Again, evidence that would hold up in a court of law or laboratory.

It rained off and on for thousands of years, while the sun and wind beat down on it every day. Where's the conflict?

The history of Egypt. Essentially the amount of water that would cause that kind of erosion only existed roughly 13,000 years ago, and traditional history says the Sphinx was built in 2,500 b.c..

Yet it still eroded. Funny that.

What are your references?

Look for Dr. Robert Shock, Zahi Hawass, and Mark Lehner.

I am not doing your research for you. Give me citations. I can google those names and get thousands of unrelated things to sort through, I could use web of science, and without subject headings and journal titles, I would get thousands of results.