Do You Believe the Investigation(s) of Donald Trump & administration has been fair and unbiased?

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  1. Tererune

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    That was not anti Semitic. Any group that practices strict adherence to their religion becomes difficult to deal with due to odd customs and beliefs. In that area of new York there were Hasidic communities you did not go into because they wanted things certain ways. When I worked for cable there were stories about how the guys who installed in the Jewish bungalows in Middletown had to have a person there to work some of their computers for them because there was some reason they could not touch technology. I never did find out exactly what it was all about, but they had a lot of special rules.

    They would come to the paintball field where I worked and that was a weird day. They all came to play paintball in good leather shoes, and a suit with the yarmulke and their curly sideburns. They were somewhat hard to deal with because they did not want the refs talking directly to the kids, but we had to for safety reasons. It is not being anti Semitic to admit there are difficulties in doing things the normal way when dealing with strict Hasidic Jews. I did not say they were horrible people who should not be allowed to practice their religion, or should be killed and tossed in ovens.
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    Must they conform to your social norms? Do you celebrate diversity by assembling a bunch of colored people to act like post-modern whitey and assimilate to Western values and manners?
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    M. Bison Philosophize w/a Hammer

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    Because you sound like David Duke.
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    Is this the point at which @Dinner has gone full Nazi?
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    Did I say they had to conform? If you got that you were wrong. It may be more difficult, but that is not the end of the world. Like vegans, I try to go with their restrictions if I am planning something or going somewhere with them. It is difficult and not what I would normally do, but I am cool with that. I actually like that there are people like that to show discipline and the value of adherence to customs. I want people to be free to participate if they like, not trapped into anything.
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    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    He certainly has some worrying ideas.
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  7. Quincunx

    Quincunx anti-anti Staff Member Administrator

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    Back on topic…

    The agents who exchanged anti-Trump texts also had unkind words for Clinton, Bernie Sanders, and Eric Holder, among others.

    https://www.salon.com/2017/12/15/wh...i-trump-texts-that-fueled-outrage-at-mueller/
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    I love how "full Nazi" means not buying into a discredited fallacy full of inconsistent double think and laughable nonsense. If that is how you define "Nazi" then no wonder you are so confused.

    So to summerize Rick and Quest's attempt at an argument "You must agree with my nonscientific unsupported political claim unconditionally and ignore the actual evidence or you are a Nazi." :bullshit:
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    What? That gentic variation exists with in the human species and certain combinations are termed "races". It makes no reference to any race being better than the other (because they are not) but it does acknowledge the reality that different human populations in different regions under went different selective pressures. Which is something everyone should agree with it.

    Worrying is attempting to deny this basic biological reality out of a misguided desire to play pretend games instead of simply admitting reality. People like Rick and Quest think if you pretend something is true then that will magically make it true, the real world doesn't work that way. :shrug:
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    Nobody doubts this (well, except that most people spell it 'genetic').

    No. Certain combinations are called 'individuals' (and identical siblings). What you are introducing as 'race' is a set of individuals with no biologically defined boundaries. You just declare, through cultural bias, that some arbitrarily chosen traits define a 'race' such that variations of thousands of other traits -- i.e. again different individuals, often billions of them -- somehow belong together.
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    Yep.

    Nope. The variations are very minor and don't correspond to usually identified groupings. Modern human beings originated from a very small gene pool too short a time ago for there to be that kind of differentiation. There used to be - Neanderthals and so forth - but not any more.

    These facts do not have anything to do with social science, so you can stop babbling about that.
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    :lol:

    @Packard must be my dual...
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    Why do you lie? You are reaching the point of pathology now. If you are unclear about someone's position, ask them, but don't lie and misrepresent them as that is poor form.
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    Do these posts not represent your position?


    You have been using the terms race, subspecies, and breed interchangeably. Though to be fair, you have also been linking articles that contradict your argument, most recently:


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    Ah. But you can be banned.
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    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/evolution/does-race-exist.html

    Pro and Con. IMHO the race denailist has an extremely weak and emotionally based case where as the race exists side has all the physical evidence. Worth reading no matter which side you are on. You will note that the MAJORITY (if ever so slightly) of actual scientists, not humanities professors, agree race exists or at least disagree with the statement that it does not exist.
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    This. He's digging his own grave and that's all on him.
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    when I mentioned subspecies I specifically spoke about other species on planet Earth, as you well know. I specifically spelled that out over and over and over. Congrats on quote mining one quick example out of dozens. It just goes to show how deep your dishonesty goes. I understand that you are extremely emotionally invested in your wrong position and that you are willing to be unethical and dishonest in that pursuit but facts and reality do not back your politically motivated position up.
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    To be clear, you are backpedaling from your previous assertion that the races of humanity are distinct subspecies?
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    In many ways what we call races is more of a cultural and visual distinction rather than one based on genetic similarity.
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    Do @Dinner and others here still have the same exalted opinion of Robert Mueller now? There answer should be interesting.
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    @Dayton3 still necroing old dead threads to spam the board?

    Didn't the mods tell you that your disruption tactics would get you banned?
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    Thank you for your support Tererun.
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    Don't worry, I am reporting them all.
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    Of course. Mueller delivered the goods, bigly.

    He provided incontrovertible evidence that:

    1) Russia sought to interfere in the election

    2) the Trump campaign was aware of and expected to benefit from those efforts

    3) President Trump and associates repeatedly lied to conceal Russian activity and attempted to obstruct the investigation.

    Oh, but no "collusion," whatever that means. :bergman:
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    How's that working out for you?