Does feminism increase abuse?

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TKO, sounds like your friend is confusing "feminism" with "bossiness."

Now she's telling me that relationships based around God are more solid.

Oboy...maybe she needs to join a convent, then. She'd be married to God.

Ouch.

There's a difference between "feminism", which has lost any true, unified meaning these days, and a woman who isn't afraid to pursue the things that make her happy.

Look at China, for instance. As the women have become more and more independent, divorces in China have skyrocketed. For the first time, woman have a way to get out of an unhappy relationship. That's why I don't view the divorce rate in this country as anything to get upset about. The freer people are, the more ability they have to pursue other options if something doesn't work out for them.

So, if a man is upset because you're "asserting dominance" or some nonsense, then let's be happy we're perfectly capable of packing our bags and finding another guy more suitable to our enlightened views.

Only if he's a total asshat. In which case he's likely to abuse her anyway. If he's gonna smack her for her smart mouth, he's gonna smack her if the mashed potatoes are a little runny.

A. Only if he's a pedophile. In which case as his wife, your biggest concern should be not that he hits you, but that he wants ot fuck your kids.

And that has nothing to do with feminism, but with dumbass parents.

B. You couldn't possibly wear more clothes than during the Victorian era. Bustles and petticoats and bloomers and ruffs and big giant hats and 35 pounds of underwear and twelve yards of fabric for a bathing suit, and people were STILL as perverted and kinky as they were today, just with politer language and tea.

No. It's just more out in the open, same as child molestation.

I think you need to get your friend to get an account here .

An account based around God.

For starters, no one person should be "taking over the relationship" unless the other party is in a coma. The minute either party tries to control the other, the relationship is doomed to failure. Because a relationship is just that; a Relationship, not a Worship-ship (!?). It's about give-and-take, contributing together, doing what's best for each other and the Relationship, having a tiny little communist state of two (or three, if that's your thing).

I mean sure, sometimes one party or the other simply has to take the wheel and go "FUCK IT! THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING, AND THIS IS WHERE WE'RE GOING!! AHHHHH!!!!", and sure, every Relationship gets to the point we you just want to push the other party out of a moving car, but you got to just keep on driving together, cause eventually a bee is just gonna get in the car and someone is going to have to step up and swat it with a newspaper, and you'd really like a reliable co-pilot and steady hand at the wheel at a time like that, so's you don't crash into that giant fiberglass orange-shaped Orange-Aide stand and die a horrible, firey, bee-stung, orange-shaped death. And it ain't all bad, there's a Stucky's at the next rest stop!

Listkeeper, the title of this thread offends me. I demand that it be changed to "Fluffy Kitten Boo-Boo".

There is a lot of stuff that goes against men thanks to the influences of the militant man-hating lesbian feminists, but there are different styles of feminism.

For example, a court of law is far more likely to go after a dead beat parent who is a man than a woman, and other inequal problems such as that. However, things are changing, albeit slowly.

No offense, but your friend is

Please tell me she hasn't started dating yet.

I've been happy to describe myself as a feminist since I was 12, and I've never been abused...
A good marriage is a partnership. That doesn't mean every decision has to be made jointly - if one of us is doing the shopping alone, it's not necessary to spend half the time on a mobile asking 'Shall I get lamb chops or pork?' It means that we know not to do something likely to piss off the other until we've had a chance to discuss it. That's respect, not subservience.