[Edit: WINNING/WON!] Dark Brandon strikes again: [EVERYONE] caps out of pocket insulin costs @ $35/m

Hmmm… Where have I heard that $35 a month number before… It’s tickling the back of my brain…

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Under Lilly’s new pricing plan, its most commonly prescribed insulins—Humalog and Humulin—will cost 70% less in the fourth quarter, which starts in October. The current list price for a 10-milliliter vial of the fast-acting, mealtime insulin Humalog is currently $274.70 and will fall to $66.40, while the same amount of Humulin will drop from $148.70 to $44.61. Lilly also announced that it will cut the price of its authorized generic version of Humalog to $25 a vial, down from $82 a vial, starting in May.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/com...nding-after-eli-lilly-s-price-cap/ar-AA189xVY

Has any President in the last half a century done more for the majority of Americans?

This looks like a huge win . . . we'll see if it sticks.

No pun intended.

Meanwhile $35 is only enough to buy a single egg thanks to Joe Brandon and the egg price council

I'm pretty sure the Twitter checkmark fiasco that tanked their profits had more to do with this than Biden, but hey...rare W for American health care

Tanked Eli Liiy's profits? Did I miss some fallout from that? There was a blip in their stock price, but that's not profits. Genuine question, I've missed a lot of news in the past 6 months.

The drug company Novo Nordisk on Tuesday said it would reduce the sticker prices of several of its insulin products by up to 70%, reversing years of price increases in the face of mounting pressure. https://nyti.ms/3mRE8Ls

BLAMO!

BREAKING: Sanofi announces the out-of-pocket cost of insulin will be capped at $35, becoming the last of the three major drugmakers to cut prices.​

https://twitter.com/nbcnews/status/1636461441170415625

Anyone here diabetic or have someone that needs insulin in their family?

How will this affect you and your family?

Won't somebody think of the poor shareholders?

I know a few people will are diabetic. None are in my family. AFAIK, they are all type 1. So this will beneficial to them.

That is awesome. That is also not a legal cap except for the medicare covered costs. Yay finally something good, and Biden got them to do it. Yeah, it isn't good enough. While this has been accomplished he is not doing much to fight against the problem striking half our population with female medical care being weaponized to punish women for having a uterus. Trump would have been passing executive orders every day and kicking people in the ass to get his agenda done. Dark Brandon whine a bunch so that insulin companies stopped price gouging as much on a product that they are guaranteed sales and profits from. BTGW where the fuck is the rest of our medical care? Are we even talking about a public option to health insurance anymore?

In other news how are those banking regulations coming along? How are you doing regulating transportation? How are we doing switching to renewable energy? We are protecting natural federal lands from destructive oil drilling, right? How are those kids at the border doing? I am sure we are moving along with GLBT rights, right? I am sure education is getting better. What about the rich paying some of the bills for existing in the country that gives them so much business and comfort? I am sure we are not rolling back health care for female pregnancy to the point mothers and children are dying in unheard of numbers so we can satisfy a few religious extremists.

But I will take it. Still, I think insulin for type 1 diabetes should be fucking free because we can. Maybe things like reproductive care too since we all have a need for that happening. Thanks for the bare minimum joe.

seriously @Ancalagon do you cheer the team mascot for contributing to a win also?

Look, I'm no fan of Biden, but if this keeps a college aged student or retiree from needlessly dying, then yes it's an unequivocally good thing worth celebrating.

$35 isn't zero but is not $250.

Like a number of other political viewpoints, it’s a way to feel good about doing nothing to change things. So, sure, people are going to live because the price has been lowered, but by waving around the idea that accepting this is evil, she can pretend to be better than others since she’s never compromised. (While benefiting from the changes that have been made.)

There’s an old saying that you can’t change the system from inside, and while there’s some truth to that, you can’t change the system without a working knowledge that comes from being inside the system.

If those in power just handed everything over to people like Tererun and walked away, shit would quickly collapse because nobody would know how to get things done and who to talk to.

You want to know why it’s so easy to get Ukraine billions in military aid but a nightmare to get domestic policies changed? Because the instant there’s a dust up, the corporations that have spent time and money getting to know people in power, and that have means to rapidly deploy the goodies being handed out, are right there, pitching to get it. They can put Senator Kickback in touch with military people who’ll sing the praises of both the gear and the Senator.

They’ll have a swath of material not only to educate him, but so he can use them in campaign ads. A couple of weeks after the bill authorizing the aid is signed, the Senator can watch the stuff being used to blow shit up on the other side of the world on the nightly news.

Can the Medicare 4 All folks say the same? Nope. Even if they got a dream package through Congress and signed by the President, it’d be at least a year before the program could be rolled out to everyone. And people not dying because they can afford insulin, doesn’t make for the kind of compelling TV that seeing a Russian tank get blown to bits by a couple of dudes with a drone and a bomb does.

You want real, dramatic change? You’ve got to make being compassionate look as sexy and exciting on TV as Tom Cruise makes military propaganda look on TV.

BREAKING: @GavinNewsom will today announce CalRX has signed a contract with manufacturer CIVICA to make $30 insulin available to all who need it, regardless of insurance coverage. The state will next to seek to manufacture its own Naloxone, or Narcan, to reverse opioid overdoses.

https://twitter.com/emily_hoeven/status/1637076398392360961

I’ve hoped for a while that CA, OR and WA might do this as part of our state partnership (we are coordinating a lot of regulations, taxes, etc).

I really hope other states can piggyback off these deals.

I never said it wasn't a good thing, I said it was clearly not good enough especially considering Biden has allowed multiple large scale chemical spills, the pollution of fresh land because he has OKd more drilling, the death of women because of religious ideals that they should not have healthcare, the lowering of educational standards, the hunting of GLBT people, and money for the wealthy. Trump could not have hoped to be as good at republicaning as Biden. But let us all cheer him for something he should have done 2 years ago with some executive regulations.

How many people died because they could not afford their insulin in the past 2 years while Biden twiddled his thumbs? Do suck DBs cock a little bit harder. I bet Hitler did some good things for some germans in his day too. If that is your bar, could it get any lower?

This is what is called being a complicit cocksucker. 2 years of deaths from his lack of action on this alone, and you want to pretend he did some regulation?

You and the Biden Bros lie. There is no government cap on non-medicare insulin sales. The pharmaceutical companies lowered their prices in a corporate decision Biden has nothing to do with. They are doing it because public demand might cause people to not elect Biden and prefer someone who would actually regulate the cost of insulin by law for everyone.

Why am I not surprised the local DB cocksucker was trying to pretend Biden did something amazing when the only thing he did was lower the costs of government medicare recipients. Great anyone under 65 and anyone who is not eligible for medicare can go fuck themselves according to Sleepy Joe. As far as I am aware most people who need non-synthetic insulin are type 1 and they have diabetes all or most of their lives. That means 65 years of non-regulated costs that are right now lowered because based on the fears of corporate goons that their cruelty might cause problems with their taxes in the future.

I am sure that is a great relief considering a change on corporate leadership could cause the prices to go up because there is no actual regulation outside of a small group of elderly adults on government care.

And while I give props to Biden for working for this, ultimately this is what made the change IMO. Newsome getting CA to simply say 'fuck it, if you don't change we'll make our own.'

THAT is what panicked Big Pharma to complying to Biden's pressure. Real political acumen, threatening their largest customer base.

Big win for lots of people.

Happy to see this and Cuban's low cost pharmacy. Going to save a lot of lives.

Nope.

Everybody lies -- House, MD. But unlike, oh, say, you, I've never bragged that I caused someone to commit suicide.

Never said there was.

Eh, Biden didn't order them to do it, but I'd say his actions made them feel uncomfortable enough that they felt they needed to throw him a bone to stave off him from trying to get actual regulation in place.

Who would that be? Trump? DeSantis? Because unless the US adopts Ranked Choice Voting, the 2024 election is going to come down to Biden and whomever the Republican nominee is going to be. The only thing that a third-party candidate can hope to do is to steal votes from one of the major party candidates enough that the other one gets elected. Neither Trump nor DeSantis is going to enact price controls for drugs. Biden probably won't either, but a third-party candidate has absolutely no hope of winning without RCV. And the odds of that happening nationally before 2024 are nil.

Our best hope for RCV is that DeSantis gets the RNC nomination and Trump runs as a third-party candidate. This will effectively nuke the Republicans from getting the White House and make them willing to back RCV. Because then they might have a chance at winning if some fuckstick runs as a third-party candidate that splits Republican voters. Will enough Dems in Congress go along with the idea? I don't know, but I do know that so long as the Dems and Repubs continue to be the largest political parties in the US, no third-party candidate has a shot at winning the White House, let alone having a large number of people from their own party in Congress.

I don't think I said that what Biden did was "amazing."

"Non-synthetic insulin"? Got news for you, the days of insulin being derived from pigs have long since gone.

Truthfully, it doesn't really mean shit to me as I'm not a diabetic and don't have to take insulin. For the people who do need insulin to survive? I bet it is one, and I bet that they, like me, also support Bernie's plan to cap the price of insulin, by law, at no more than $20. (Still too high, IMHO, but we're going to be lucky if Bernie's proposal even gets voted on by the Senate, let alone sent to Biden's desk. And I absolutely would not be surprised if Biden did the stupid thing and vetoed it.)

All that being said, I'll ask you: What are you doing to change any of this? Besides slavering over the idea that you've somehow managed to beat FF at his own game and "gotten one over" on some wanker on an obscure message board. Me? I'll tell you what I'm doing: I'm not merely donating money to the local Democratic party, but I'm also donating money to the various Democratic Socialist Party organizations, and helping local Democratic party candidates run for office. (There's no local Democratic Socialist party candidates in my area, or I'd help them as well.)

OK Biden Bro.

Oh and Diane Feinstein is a cunt. I just want to get this off to the proper start.

You forgot to log out of your tons of lubak account.

Anyway, can we get onto your sucking of the biden cock?

Then there is no actual accomplishment. For people who have to buy the non-synthetic insulin this is a drug they need to take consistently to live. If they do not have this drug they will die. This is holding their life in the balance for a drug that we have had for many years who's research costs have been more than paid for. There is no regulation on it for people under 65 not on medicare and you are thinking this is a major win for the biden admin that elderly people on medicare can now survive easier while everyone else who has to take this medicine to live is surviving at the whim of big pharma profits?

This is your Dark Biden is a hero moment? Sorry, but you asre fucked up if you think this is good. Yes, it is better, but it is not on the good side of the scale, and it really is not that much better, nor is it secure. If we are to regard @Demiurge's argument as true, which I think it is pretty good, the lowering of costs by the corporations is not actually Biden's influence.

I think Demiurge made a good argument, and I would love to see your rebuttal to that. As for them throwing him a bone, I do not think it has anything to do with any of that. Biden needed a small win to pretend he did something, and you fell for it like the cocksucker you are. This is not a regulation. This is not an actual legal cap for drug prices. This is them setting a price. Your intellectually dishonest claim that this is a cap could be said for gas prices. Gas is capped at 3.25 today by me because that is the price set by the corporation that sells gas. It does not mean it is legally bound to that price and will not go above it.

An actual cap is what was set for medicare recipients, and what the corporations did was not an actual cap, but what they decided to sell it for. They can change that cap tomorrow. You lie like Tucker Carlson when you claim it is a cap for non-medicare sales.

That does not mean they do not do a PR spin campaign tryingh to pretend Biden did something, and you fell for it. You think their PR teams take time off?

What the fuck does this have to do with the price of insulin and lack of medical care? You were the one coming in here bragging Dark Brandon did something amazing, and now you are saying he could never do anything amazing because of the 2 party system. Sure, I actually agree Sleepy Joe is a POS because our two party system insures we always get a POS. I am not going to suck Joe's cock like you and pretend we have a good president doing things for us when things are still getting a lot worse, and arguable faster than with trump in charge.

WINNING/WON! Looks like your opinion was pretty amazed. What was that other quote you had?

I do not know where I got the idea you were fluffing him like FF fluffs trump. Actually I have to say even FF bad mouths trump from time to time. It may be pretend, but unlike the Biden Bros, at least he recognizes saying Trump is awesome all the time is a losing argument.

Products like Novalone 70/30 are referred to as synthetic. I know this because I take it. It costs 35 dollars. It is not the same insulin that people with diabetes 1 take that is costing hundreds of dollars that are considered non synthetic. However, If you would like to go ahead and tell us all about the options of insulin for people with types 1 and how the pricy options for insulin are forced on people who cannot use the cheaper insulin products to survive I would love to hear it.

The newer products for people who do not need the expensive insulin to live are sold for so much less. Type 2 diabetes is something with a relatively recent medical treatment as opposed to type 1. the newer products for these treatments are less costly than the older established ones for type 1. How is this a thing? This is because I can live without my novalone. I may not live as long, and I may be less healthy, but large numbers of people who take the less expensive synthetic novalone are type 2 and do not die if they do not take it.

School me with your knowledge. Bring it.

One thing I am not doing is trying to pretend Sleepy Joe, who you admit will probably never do anything to improve things beyond this, won the issue. You are trying to pretend there was some great and amazing victory for Dark Brandon when you even admit there is a real victory.

Worse yet, this is not even medical coverage for all people.

You stood up on that box trying to pretend Brandon won with that little assist, and now you are mad because I, and others, kicked your base out from under you. Let me tell you something, the base of your argument was shit and it collapsed from the wight you tried to put on it. We just pointed out that you fell on your head when your tried to stand on it.

Holy fuck. @Tererun is outdoing itself on TL;DR posting.

Who?

Washington state has established a permanent, $35-per-month cap on out-of-pocket insulin costs. Gov. Jay Inslee signed the bipartisan legislation Thursday.

https://twitter.com/seattletimes/status/1641652785363005442

Drop in the bucket, compared to what we need, I’m afraid.



A pretty grim thread.

https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1641799627128143873?s=46&t=iYW3foyqIA6Tn8VWwn3nwQ

Grim is Premier League in 2011 down to League 2 in 2017. Talk about falling off a cliff.

On the other hand, Blackpool does get some solid stand-up gigs. And they have the illuminations - it's like Vegas but without the rednecks.

BREAKING: Pharma giant Boehringer Ingelheim will bring down the cost of inhalers from $525 to $35 a month for most patients.

They're one of the four major inhaler makers.

This move, which could help millions, comes after massive public pressure and a federal lawsuit.

https://x.com/moreperfectus/status/1765761252150960447

@Ancalagon, some of your thread titles lately remind me of those people that cover their cars in barely intelligible sentences about various conspiracy theories, but it's all so stream of thought that they don't plan out the spacing or grammar. Are you OK?

Well it started out with one company moving to $35/m insulin after Biden called them out in the SotU but over time all manufacturers got on board so I had to edit.

The admin then moved on to $35/m inhalers and epipens and that is now starting to bear fruit.

This is excellent news, and something I've been hoping for a long time. I get a lot of help on my insulin, but if I had to pay out of pocket, it would be $1100 a month, which is just beyond ridiculous. This way, should something happen and I lose that assistance, I will still be able to afford insulin, assuming it goes into effect. I don't mean to put a damper on it, but until it actually happens and is hammered into place, it's still a hope and not a policy.

Also, I have to hope that's $35 per month, rather than, say, $35 per vial, because I go through a lot of insulin a month.

I like those cars. How else would I find out that Joe Biden is an artificially-aged clone of Hunter Biden, created by the Jesuits* to infiltrate the white house so they can steal your Medicare dollars so Hunter can buy more laptops? The Main Stream Media® certainly wouldn't cover news like that.

*The Jesuits are my go-to now when I need a shadowy organization for a conspiracy theory so I avoid unintentional Jewish dog whistles. Jesuits are definitely Catholic and fuck Catholicism.

No I get it, and it's great news. Just the thread title formatting is making me worried about your sanity.