Enterprise Was Pretty Good

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  1. Chris

    Chris Cosmic Horror

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    I finally gave Enterprise a chance. I'd been burned out by Voyager so I rejected this out of hand I never gave it it's due. I'm near the end of Season 3 and I have to admit: I really, really enjoy this show. Season 1 was a bit iffy - I thought Archer was literally retarded. Season 2 found it's voice, and they started to go along with it. Season 3 was jarring at first, but now I'm digging every moment of this.

    I like all of the characters, though I think Mayweather and Hoshi are completely underused. Trip and Archer are fantastic - Trip's selfless sacrifice(s) give the show a human feel and Archer evolved from a bumbling idiot into a dangerously competent strategist and first rate, if unorthodox diplomat. You can really see how he grows into... well, his future.

    I'm actually sad going into the 4th season knowing this will be it's last. Never thought I'd say that.
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  2. The Original Faceman

    The Original Faceman Lasagna Artist

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    Help me out here. You're the one wake stole Nick's girlfriend right? Or was that Kyle?
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  3. Shirogayne

    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    The series finale is the most moving of all the Trek finals :)

    Welcome back, dude!
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  4. Chris

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    Thanks!

    I watched it when it aired and from what it remembers, I'm filled with sadness. I don't remember everything though, so I'll at least enjoy myself.
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  5. Shirogayne

    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    How's it hanging at GM? You still working with them?
  6. Chris

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    Yes. I'm about to take a test to get an apprenticeship actually.

    Also Porthos is a good doggie.
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  7. Shirogayne

    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    Porthos was indeed a pretty doggie.

    By pure coincidence, Cats and Dogs came out around the same time as Enterprise and my brother had to have a beagle....which is how we ended up with Lou. It's also why ANISB was doubly grating the second time around, because who keeps a hunting dog on a ship? Hell even my Chiweenie I have now likes to have fun in the yard for a few hours a day.
  8. The Original Faceman

    The Original Faceman Lasagna Artist

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    This is all an elaborate troll right?
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  9. Chris

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    No. :borg:
  10. The Original Faceman

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    Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!
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  11. tafkats

    tafkats scream not working because space make deaf Moderator

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    It had its moments. At least when it wasn't being derailed by Braga's stunted adolescent sex fantasies.
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  12. Nova

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    About half of it was quite good, the other half was....not. Sadly, they were freely mixed together.

    Hoshi was indeed severely underused, and Travis would have been a better character if he wasn't so plain.
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  13. Chris

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    He suffers from Harry Kim syndrome. They only briefly tried to use his background as a plot device, but they quickly abandoned it. I guess there's no fun in having a navigator sit and tell the crew he's "seen it all before".
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  14. Ten Lubak

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    There was like one good episode for every 50 bad episodes.
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    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    .....

    I see what you did there. :P
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    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    No, but there was plenty of fun in the lowest ranked officer on board having more time in space than the spoiled captain who likely got his position from nepotism.

    It didn't help that the actor playing him was as stiff as Volpone during Pride Weekend. Likely, they realized that they dun goofed in his casting and minialized his role accordingly.
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  17. Ten Lubak

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    "Stiff as @Volpone during pride weekend..."

    :rotfl:
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    I watched ENT all the way through, twice.

    I quit on VOY at some point in season 3.

    I know more about that series from @Kyle 's review thread than I do from actually watching the show.
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    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    Speaking of, Kyle took up the mantle of reviewing Enterprise as well. I hope he'll finish it some day :cool:
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  20. TheBurgerKing

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    And Capt. Janeway was a sane and competent captain, and all starfleet admirals are good, trustworthy people.
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    I could not get into enterprise, but I think it was because it brought the story back in time while bringing the set and effects forward. One of the reasons I can appreciate TOS was because it was more like a pioneer/pirate sort of adventure and the older special effects and sets made it seem like they were just getting into space. When they first met with the romulans it was important to the plot that the first battles had occured without ever seeing the enemy. As the new series and movies came we had a progression of technology which because of the in depth backstories we had I already had a view of the time frame of enterprise, and that ship and crew were just too slick for the times.

    Yes, I know given real life progression of computers and technology TOS is obviously not going to be what things look like. I do not think any of the series is going to have many similarities to what will come. I just cannot put enterprise into a timeline unless I were to possibly look at it formulate of the reboot timeline. Yes, I actually tried because I did not like the first two seasons of voyage, but coming back to it in later seasons I actually came to enjoy it as a space adventure.

    The first season of voyage actually pissed me off. I like Torres as a. character later, but it seemed like most of the male characters were there so they could make suggestions and then Janeway would tell them they were all wrong and work it out with Torres. Torres was certainly I intelligent and was a decent engineer, but there were times it seems one would defer to someone else because the problem was not an engineering problem.
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    The other part about Torres is that she got almost the exact same story every damn time, and almost always about Klingon angst. I got burned out on Klingon everything by season five of DS9, but it served a purpose there.

    The only difference between Torres and a character from a soap opera is Torres didn't have seven increasingly wealthy husbands during her time on Voyager and that I occasionally got enjoyment from my soaps.
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    If you took a TOS script, crossed out Kirk and penciled in Picard for any boring talking on the bridge bits and Riker for any Amok Time Judo chop bits you'd have a Season 1 TNG script. If you scribbled the Picard and Riker out and wrote in Janeway in crayon and crossed out Enterprise and wrote in Voyager, you'd have a Voyager script. If you then crossed out Janeway and Voyager and wrote in Quantum Leap Guy and circled the scribbled out Enterprise and then pissed on it and set it on fire, you'd have an Enterprise script.
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  24. Ten Lubak

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    It seems like you've given this serious thought in between jerking off to Brokeback Mountain.
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    I agree they did beat that horse to death and back again. I skipped a lot of ds9 until the idea of the war started. Up until then it was very boring. Also at the time I was living with the field manager at the paintball field who was big into role-playing games and characters and he got into the whole Klingon thing because he liked to shout up people as encouragement. The command structure at the field was very gung ho towards militaristic battle, but it was a job so if you did not fit in you found other places to work. You were not owned by the field staff, you stepped up into their structure or you were one of the shit haulers.

    I think that is why the whole Klingon thing never got old for me. You got your place because you made it in my world. I guess by the time I got to Torres I was pretty much floating over the whole Klingon thing. Though I liked some of the stuff with the doctor I found a lot of the episodes focussed on him to be quite boring.
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    I enjoyed the theme song.
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    Put it this way, id rather watch all of Enterprise than the first four seasons of VOY. Enterprise got cancelled just as it was starting to get really good. Had they'd gone into the Earth/ Romulan war, that would have been great. The problem I had was the whole temporal Cold War which didn't really get resolved and then the Xindi. What they should have done is just gone with the Romulans from the start. TNG and DS9 gave us so much of the Klingons, but we still don't have much on the Romulans. I did like Archer and Trip's friendship and Archer's style of diplomacy.
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    You want to hear an unpopular Star Trek opinion? I find Worf to be far more annoying than Neelix. I'm being 100% serious.

    I did not expect that movie to have boobs. It was a complete surprise.
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    The 4th season of Ent was better, the first 2 seasons were up and down but often crap, and I hated the Xindi arc.
    The theme tune was the most annoying thing in the history of the Universe
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    That's easily solved. Go back and edit in the theme music to the mirror universe episodes in.
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