Father of Murdered 5-Year-Old Says He'll Make Sure Killer Suffers Same Fate

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  1. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    I don't believe that justice is only something that can be provided by the state. And I know any effort to stop such a miscarriage again would be irrelevant to the one occurring now.

    Ultimately, a person decides for themselves. I certainly don't believe it is an unreasonable act to remove a murderer from the citizenry when the government itself has failed to do so despite knowing explicitly what he did.
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  2. RickDeckard

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    So who gets to decide following this kind of vigilante "justice" whether the offender should go to prison?
  3. Tamar Garish

    Tamar Garish Wanna Snuggle? Deceased Member

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    Let's be serious....there is no such thing as justice in a case like this.

    There is absolutely nothing that could adequately compensate the murder and consumption of a child. Nothing.

    Killing this asshole won't bring back the kid. Killing him just ends his life and he doesn't even get punished at all.

    A crime as heinous as this...hell, all murders should not be eligible for time off for good behavior. I can see it with lesser crimes...drugs, money related charges, theft....but not murder, rape or crimes where lives are ruined. What reprieve do the victims get from what the criminal did? None...and it should be the same for the perpetrator.
  4. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    Sheeeeeet - I'm 48 and (work-wise anyway) I still haven't "peaked" and have plenty, plenty of years ahead. These days we can live long, productive lives with modern medical science.

    I certainly hope this turd suffers the most severe, painful, soul-crushing diseases known to mankind - I'm talking Biblical suffering. The justice system failed outright, eternal suffering via God is still up in the air IMO -
    the only thing left is bad, bad luck + plenty of it.

    I hope dad is arranging some right now!
  5. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    A nice jury nullification should suffice. I'm not arguing that the law should be abolished, just that like any hierarchial bureaucratic system is has copious limits and flaws.
  6. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    Hey shoes, sorry I missed this the first time around. Good to see you!

    Can't say I know for sure what you mean - are you implying that no one should be egging on this guy to shoot the murderer of his child?

    I'd likely be more circumspect with my discussion points if I was in a conversation with him, but I hardly suspect he's reading wordforge right now.

    Even then, I agree completely with his viewpoint. Whether he believes that taking the action of eliminating the criminal that ate his kid is worth his own continued well-being is an act only he can weigh.

    If I was in a jury though, I'd never vote to convict him.
  7. RickDeckard

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    This "flaw" would be easily correctable if society was so inclined. An increased punishment for child murders or even a Sharia-equivalent where family members could decide punishment would both be superior to trying to have your cake and eat it by condoning individuals who take it upon themselves to abrogate the law.
  8. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    Mandating sentences for crimes and keeping the judges from using their own common sense in applying the law can lead to vast miscarriage of justice as well, often at the expense of individuals that had mitigating circumstances in their case. This is far more common than we fucked up and let a cannibal out early, and much more damaging from any rational examination.

    And of course these things are done on a state by state basis. You cannot get a perfect legal system while humans are involved. It's difficult to get an even remotely just system when politics are involved. Add that to the fact that money can purchase superior ability to avoid or change the law...

    Sorry, I'm not going to sign off on the concept that my own sense of right and wrong has to be abrogated by the legal system and that any injustice that might exist is one I just have to tolerate.

    It depends on the level of the injustice, the scope, and how it happened.
  9. Man Afraid of his Shoes

    Man Afraid of his Shoes كافر

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    Meh, I don't have any kids, so I guess I'm in no position to judge.

    If the guy is willing to throw his life away for his justice then more power to him. It's not like I'll feel sorry for the guy who killed his kid.

    However, I sure won't be standing outside a courthouse demanding that the jury nullify his own murder charge. :shrug:
  10. Volpone

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    This isn't about revenge. It isn't about justice. It is about punishment and removing a threat to society. Just kill the guy.
  11. KIRK1ADM

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    Stick the guy in the general prison population and let the other cons deal with him.
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  12. shootER

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    I made up my mind a long time ago that if someone were to kill either of my daughters (or wife or my parents), I will do my level best to make them die. :shrug:
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  13. Elwood

    Elwood I know what I'm about, son.

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    I used to feel the same way. But, I had a change of heart. If someone were to kill my kids, it would be wrong of me to abandon my wife when she needs me the most. If someone were to kill my wife, it would be wrong of me to abandon my kids when they need me the most. If someone were to kill my parents, it would be wrong of me to abandon my wife and kids.

    So, while I have no qualms with defending myself or others, unless I catch them in the act and can morally and ethically claim self defense, I have no choice but to trust in the court system.

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  14. Black Dove

    Black Dove Mildly Offensive

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    Who gives a fuck about punishment in a case like this? The concept of punishment is to correct unacceptable behavior. There is no correcting with this guy. He's defective and needs to be removed from amongst the living as quickly as possible so that he can never harm anyone ever again. And a bullet to the brain pan (squish) is the fastest and most economical way of removing him from society.
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  15. Sean the Puritan

    Sean the Puritan Endut! Hoch Hech!

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    What you need to do with a guy like this is float him in a sensory deprivation tank hooked up to a glucose drip and leave him there until he expires.
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  16. skinofevil

    skinofevil Fresh Meat

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    Exactly. This guy didn't find his wife in bed with another fella and killed one or both in a blinding rage -- the dude hunted, killed and ate a little kid. That's some Hannibal Lecter shit right there. It can't be fixed, only deleted.
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  17. Caboose

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    While Elwood makes some good points, truthfully I'd be hard pressed to let it go. Fact is, the wife would likely be alright with the Paul Kersey approach were it our kid. :lol:
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  18. shootER

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    I've told my wife and both my daughters.

    They're good with it. :shrug: