Flowtoberfest

Discussion in 'The Green Room' started by evenflow, Sep 3, 2014.

  1. evenflow

    evenflow Lofty Administrator

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2004
    Messages:
    25,051
    Location:
    Where the skies are not cloudy all day
    Ratings:
    +20,614
    One hundred and fifty years or so after my ancestors left the primitive, barbaric lands of Europe, I return! That right, we're going to Germany, Munich to be exact, during Oktoberfest.

    Aside from the standard travel show things, what should we do? What foods should we eat? What signals should we avoid so that we don't accidentally wind up in a bondage club? Don't we have some Huns here, @Packard @Aurora tell me of the Fatherland!
    • Agree Agree x 3
  2. The Original Faceman

    The Original Faceman Lasagna Artist

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2004
    Messages:
    40,853
    Ratings:
    +28,814
    Do leave your hitler was framed shirt at home.
    • Agree Agree x 1
  3. K.

    K. Sober

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2004
    Messages:
    27,298
    Ratings:
    +31,281
    You might want to visit the Oktoberfest twice: There's the fares in the daytime, which is fun for kids, families, and anyone still young enough to enjoy Disneyland, and then there's the beer tents in the evenings and nights, where people will usually arrive drunk in order to save time. Very different crowds.

    Besides the Oktoberfest, make sure you visit the Deutsche Museum, which has something for anyone interested in science and/or technology. Depending on your interests, you might also want to walk through the Englische Garten -- if so, visit both the "English" wild part, including the famously nudist bits that nobody in Munich gets at all excited about, and the "French" precisely groomed part close to Schloß Nymphenburg. Of course, if you're into castles, Nymphenburg, Blutenburg and so forth beckon. And if you're into arts and antiques, the Glyptothek and the several Pinakotheken can keep you busy for years.

    Some excellent theatres, too, but I guess you don't speak German? I'm told the opera and philharmonics are also world-class, but I can't really judge either of those.

    The inner city needs to be understood to be read well; if you do it right, you can basically walk through 1200 years of history in two spirals, but you need to know what to point out, as most of it is just beneath the surface. I wish I could be there to show you, but if you get a really good tour guide, it's worth listening. If you want to test them, ask them what the Drueckebergergasse started off as in the early 18th century, and why it's there. If they know, you're good to go.
    • Agree Agree x 2
  4. Volpone

    Volpone Zombie Hunter

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2004
    Messages:
    43,794
    Location:
    Bigfoot country
    Ratings:
    +16,276
    Wear assless vinyl chaps. That way you won't accidentally wind up in a bondage club.
    • Agree Agree x 4
  5. K.

    K. Sober

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2004
    Messages:
    27,298
    Ratings:
    +31,281
    Oh also, don't call Bavarians Huns unless you also call Texans Yankees.
    • Agree Agree x 1
  6. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2004
    Messages:
    52,375
    Location:
    Boston
    Ratings:
    +42,367
    I have been to Munich, can't say I did anything outside the most typical of tourist actions -- hit all the brewery halls, went to the big park, went to the square with the ghey clock thingy. I was with a large group of people who mostly don't like beer, and I was really the only person who enjoyed the Munich portion of our trip (which involved several other destinations).

    On the gay bar thing, we actually did accidentally end up in one, but it was the Cheers version of a gay bar, and it was probably our best night there -- just a completely chill place for drinking and conversation. Fortunately I had those chaps Volpone mentions, so everybody was good and friendly.
    • Agree Agree x 1
  7. K.

    K. Sober

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2004
    Messages:
    27,298
    Ratings:
    +31,281
    Huh?

    Do you mean the Schefflertaenzer? The little figurines moving, as far as they're not broken beyond repair, in the Rathaus tower?
    • Agree Agree x 1
  8. evenflow

    evenflow Lofty Administrator

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2004
    Messages:
    25,051
    Location:
    Where the skies are not cloudy all day
    Ratings:
    +20,614
    Well I did say bondage club. We're pretty sure the airbnb were staying at is operated by a gay couple, so I'm sure they can steer us in the right direction. :flow:

    We're doing Oktoberfest and plan to hit the beer halls, @Aenea has scheduled a tour of the Ludwig castles, I think. I had seen something about that Deutsche museum, and I definitely want to hit it. Is Munich known for any ethnic populations, aren't there a lot of Turks on Germany? I might want to say hi to the ISIS crowd while I'm there. :ramen:
  9. K.

    K. Sober

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2004
    Messages:
    27,298
    Ratings:
    +31,281
    Yes, there are a lot of 2nd and 3rd generation Turks, but there isn't anything like a Turkish quarter. If you'd like to try some excellent Turkish, technically Armenian cuisine (but the proprietors have given up expecting customers to know the difference, history notwithstanding), try the Altstadtcafe in Schellingstrasse, which runs right next to the university in the centre.
    • Agree Agree x 1
  10. The Original Faceman

    The Original Faceman Lasagna Artist

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2004
    Messages:
    40,853
    Ratings:
    +28,814
    Are u bringing your children?
  11. evenflow

    evenflow Lofty Administrator

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2004
    Messages:
    25,051
    Location:
    Where the skies are not cloudy all day
    Ratings:
    +20,614
    No. We both have the benefit of living near both of our parents, and in my case I have a monopoly on grandkids. For the time being... :brood:
  12. The Original Faceman

    The Original Faceman Lasagna Artist

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2004
    Messages:
    40,853
    Ratings:
    +28,814
    So no diary of Anne frank historical reenactment?
    • Agree Agree x 1
  13. Zenow

    Zenow Treehugger

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2004
    Messages:
    4,081
    Location:
    Netherlands
    Ratings:
    +897
    Viel Spaß! Don't forget the Bratwurst... and don't mention the War! Write WF a postcard, but do it before going to bed.. if you do the Oktoberfest right, you may not remember much afterwards ;)
    • Agree Agree x 2
  14. evenflow

    evenflow Lofty Administrator

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2004
    Messages:
    25,051
    Location:
    Where the skies are not cloudy all day
    Ratings:
    +20,614
    One thing I forgot, weather at the end of the month, jackets, coats?
  15. Aurora

    Aurora Vincerò!

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2004
    Messages:
    27,169
    Location:
    Storage B
    Ratings:
    +9,325
    I'm not from Germany and you'd need a whole Roman legion to drag me to Munich during Oktoberfest. Large drunk crowds are not my thing :lol:

    Anyway, Munich has to offer a few nice places. BMW World is cool if if you like their cars. If you want to see a few old (and newer) masters, try the Pinakotheken. There are three, Old, New, Modern. Especially the Old is one mighty fine art museum. If you have a spare day, you can make a trip to Neuschwanstein to see eccentricity in stone. The Hofbräuhaus is a must for tourists too. After a hard night at the Oktoberfest a stroll over the Viktualienmarkt might take your mind off the hangover. It's an expensive but charming farmer's market kind of place.

    If you're into great landscapes, book a bus tour to Salzburg and the Salzkammergut region in Austria. However, the latter sucks when it rains and it rains a lot lately.

    My own guilty pleasure when visiting a new city is taking a hop-on hop-off bus. They are the pinnacle of mass tourism and thus something I strongly dislike but they do cover most places you absolutely have to see. Also, if you have more than just one or two days, take half a day off hardcore sightseeing and just stroll around. I find that much more interesting than all the tourist-y places.

    However, the best tip is to listen to Packard. He's a native if I'm not mistaken.
    • Agree Agree x 2
  16. K.

    K. Sober

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2004
    Messages:
    27,298
    Ratings:
    +31,281
    Not precisely a native, but I did live there for a quarter century.

    And I'm afraid the weather is completely unpredictable at that time of the year. I remember Oktoberfest in the snow, and in t-shirts dying of thirst. Prepare for everything, unless you can put off packing until a week before, when the weather forecast becomes reliable.
    • Agree Agree x 1
  17. Lanzman

    Lanzman Vast, Cool and Unsympathetic Formerly Important

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2004
    Messages:
    35,178
    Location:
    Someplace high and cold
    Ratings:
    +36,673
    :rofl:
  18. ed629

    ed629 Morally Inept Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2004
    Messages:
    14,753
    Ratings:
    +17,861
    Randall was right, the Miracle Worker should have slapped some sense into her.
  19. evenflow

    evenflow Lofty Administrator

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2004
    Messages:
    25,051
    Location:
    Where the skies are not cloudy all day
    Ratings:
    +20,614
    Good to know about the weather, I'll check a forecast before I leave, unpredictability is the norm here in Oklahoma.
  20. evenflow

    evenflow Lofty Administrator

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2004
    Messages:
    25,051
    Location:
    Where the skies are not cloudy all day
    Ratings:
    +20,614
    Another question, our flight out of Munich is early Sunday morning, like 7:30. What sort of security procedures should we expect. Here in the states the lines can get pretty long to get through the TSA.
  21. Lanzman

    Lanzman Vast, Cool and Unsympathetic Formerly Important

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2004
    Messages:
    35,178
    Location:
    Someplace high and cold
    Ratings:
    +36,673
    My experience in Yurp is that their airport security is very smooth and efficient. No TSA retards to deal with.
    • Agree Agree x 1
  22. K.

    K. Sober

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2004
    Messages:
    27,298
    Ratings:
    +31,281
    Standard advice is arrive at Munich airport t-2 hours. You might not need it, but if you do, you'll really need it, and the airport itself is nice enough, shops, cafés, etc.
    • Agree Agree x 1
  23. El Chup

    El Chup Fuck Trump Deceased Member Git

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2004
    Messages:
    42,875
    Ratings:
    +27,833
    Pretty much this. The most offensive security checks I've had anywhere has been in the US. Everywhere else is a breeze.
    • Agree Agree x 1
  24. Aenea

    Aenea .

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2006
    Messages:
    6,093
    Ratings:
    +5,889
    Wohnen in einer ganz normalen Wohngegend. Soweit Ihr nicht allzusehr über die Stränge schlagt ist alles ok. Möchten aber keine Randalierer oder Leute haben die leicht austicken.

    Translate Please! :)
  25. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2004
    Messages:
    52,375
    Location:
    Boston
    Ratings:
    +42,367
    Well, Google translate wasn't too helpful, but I think it is the German way to say mind your Ps and Qs.
  26. Aenea

    Aenea .

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2006
    Messages:
    6,093
    Ratings:
    +5,889
    Yea that's why I was hoping Packard would chime in. Google Translate was :wtf:. lol
  27. K.

    K. Sober

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2004
    Messages:
    27,298
    Ratings:
    +31,281
    Sorry, I was busy. This says :

    Stay in a common neighborhood. Things will be fine if you're not too rowdy, but no weirdos please.

    (Author seems to assume you're going to party, possibly together.)
  28. Aenea

    Aenea .

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2006
    Messages:
    6,093
    Ratings:
    +5,889
    It's the place we are staying actually. :)
    • Agree Agree x 1
  29. K.

    K. Sober

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2004
    Messages:
    27,298
    Ratings:
    +31,281
    Great. Have fun, travel safely, tell us all about Munich when you come back. :)
  30. Ancalagon

    Ancalagon Scalawag Administrator Formerly Important

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2004
    Messages:
    51,572
    Location:
    Downtown
    Ratings:
    +58,202
    If y'all don't pick this up for me.... you're dead to me. :bergman:

    [​IMG]