Gender pronouns in Canada

Do you understand that you can be wrong as well?

And again, my standard for determining sex is genetic, not anatomic (though there is an extremely high correlation between the two).

Yes, the child is genetically male. A genetic defect that results in a male organism with female sex organs doesn't change that, any more than having extra fingers and toes would.

I'm not refuting that person's self-image, I'm refusing to endorse it. I won't say black is white or up is down for anyone. If other people choose to accept a male person as female, that's their perogative.

gender is physiological, not behavioural.
folks who are actually transgendered are a brain in the wrong body, that makes sense.
likewise, intersexed people make sense as a gender to me having qualities of both. their personalities are whatever they are, and surgery can add the defining touches, should those be desired, accordingly.

none of these require additional third person singulars to an already over burdensome language.

Which means you're refuting their self image. Also, black is the absence of color. White is the blending of all colors. Gender is not so easily separated, and that you want to trump someone's identity with your ignorance regarding gender isn't their fault, and does not put you in the right, nor does it give you any kind of scientific hill to stand on, as I've already explained that one. So what you're saying is "my idea of reality trumps your actual reality." Way to go, Paladin. You're a fundie.

We're talking about this shit being made into law - that's the entire point of this thread. There are also other examples were it's being made part of the code of conduct at universities, and therefore something a student or instructor can be kicked out for.

Indeed. I was wrong for most of my adult life. Clearly I'm conversant with admitting error.

Are you?

I accuse that you do not want to know about any scientific evidence that challenges the preconceptions you are comfortable with, nor do you think critically about your assumptions in this matter.
That you dare not consider the possibility that you err lest it lead you to conclusions you'd prefer not to think about. That you lack the objectivity to consider recently produced scientific claims because they make you uncomfortable.

That you are very enamoured of your self-image of being the one who's steadfastly correct while all the world around you descends into error that you are too smart to fall for.

Again:

"Congratulations sir, he's a fine healthy baby boy!"

Yes?

(also, child and parent are the same genetically here, don't just say "the child")

And you can just fuck right the hell off with this shit.

If you make it part of law or a rule of conduct, it is no longer about being kind.

Easy for you to say, isn't it?

I'm sure you think you have some kind of a point, but you don't.

You're sure of a lot of things you know nothing about. Why would this be any different?

Context is important to reading comprehension.

Because this "privilege" nonsense is exactly that - nonsense. And you can fuck right off with it.

Codes of conduct routinely forbid bullying.

Are you an expert on it?

They shouldn't enforce newspeak.

Take this "privilege" shit, and shove it right up your ass, right next to your head.

You sure do have a lot of advice on things in which you excel.

Bite my shiny metal ass.

This John/Cap. X loved hate dynamic is hot as hell, yo!

You're not sure if you're racist? Well, that "privilege" crap certainly seems to weigh in favor of that.

I'm just making fun of you.

Then don't ask me to bite your ass, sweetie.

Nah, I'll go ahead and utilize that expression all I want.

Absolutely. Indeed, I'm insisting on my right to be wrong.

My outlook can abide yours in this world, can yours abide mine?

I am not uncomfortable. I simply won't (knowingly) accept a male person as a female, no matter what beliefs that person has about himself.

I would no more accept a white person claiming to be black. Because if state of mind--and not objective reality--is the standard, words no longer have meaning. They become situational, and, in our world, that means political. Unacceptable.

I think the way I think. I freely admit I could be dead wrong. I encourage others to come to their own conclusions.

And I demand the freedom to do so.

Yes, though given the nature of the birth defect, a mistake would be understandable.

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Good. I'll associate it with your desire for me to bite your ass like a kinky fuckboi. That way, every time someone sees you post "bite my shiny metal ass," they won't be able to avoid the mental image of you flirting with me. Or them.

You think Bender is flirting with someone when he says that?

Oh, I see, you were trying to creep me out with this shtick? I'm not Volpine, that shit won't work on me. I honestly don't care if gay people flirt with me - it's actually happened in the past and if anything I was kind of flattered.

I would have a little fun and say "you are in a position to demand nothing," in classic Ricardo Montalban fashion, except that this isn't really funny, and the initial premise simply isn't so. In reality, you are in a position to demand exactly what you want, and your representatives will do everything they can to erase the identities of every trans person in this country, because they, too, cannot accept what isn't within the confines of their understanding. What you ask is that I abide by their inability to grasp basic humanity, so that they can legislate away the identities of people who have never harmed them. You are the supposed good man who does nothing, and you are just as bad as those who seek to do evil. I'm sure you can live with that, and I have no doubt you've fooled yourself into thinking you're above such things, but those of us who fight to keep basic human dignity as a foundation of this society can see otherwise.