Harrison Ford Loves the Blade Runner 2 Script

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    You're welcome to your interpretation, but did you mean to say
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    I'll repeat this for the umpteenth time - ambiguity is the entire point of the "replicant or not" issue. It forces us to question what makes us human in the first place, whether it matters and underlines the absurdity of our condition.

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    Good point.
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    You have said this before. I think I just got it. Thank you.





























    But Deckard's still human.
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    Saw it again, liked it again, though two friends I saw it with didn't get the revelation when it's first made.

    On the is-he-or-isn't-he question?

    One criticism:
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    Saw it on Saturday - was very impressed with everything but the duration. Can't wait for technology to make cinema a personalised experience so I can pause the fucking film, I like a film that has me on the edge of my seat, less so if the reason I'm on the edge is because my bladder is starting to look like a space hopper.

    The imagery and music was pretty much done to perfection, the story was good, and it didn't resolve the Deckard question whilst ensuring it wasn't repeated with K by letting us know from the offset he was a skinjob.

    Also Gaff didn't let on what was in the Colonel's Secret Recipe.

    I know @Paladin believes it does resolve the Deckard question, but....

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    I really like the intermission in German theaters. Go out, take a piss, get a beer, take a smoke in the lobby, what's not to like?
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    Smoke in the lobby. :bailey:
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    If they were thoughtful enough to engineer 4 year lifespans, they would have made them infertile as well.

    Sure, this doesn't answer the question of is Deckard or isn't he? Only his hairdresser knows for sure.
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    Why are we still using spoiler tags?
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    yeah, I doubt anyone else is going to see it or cares. Ixnay on the agtays I say.
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    Finally got around to seeing this on a giant screen tonight and am now going to be telling everyone I know to do so before it drops out of cinemas.

    An amazing movie, my favourite aspect is the confidence it has in the world building to do stuff like just give us holographic characters as a matter of fact thing.

    My only real complaint is that there was a slightly weird mismatch between the scale of the world shown and the coincidences in the story.

    What are the odds that K would just happen to stumble across the daughter before knowing who she was? When K goes to Las Vegas his scans show that the radiation is fine now ( and clearly has been for a while) so how has it not been scavenged or explored by anyone else?

    Can anyone explain the bees to me?
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    Rick Deckard is not a replicant.

    First off he's not as sma.......

    Oh we are talking about the movie Rick Deckard.

    Nevermind.

    :ramen:
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    Movie Rick Deckard is not a replicant.

    The whole unicorn thing is bullshit. It wasn't until 1992 when in the Directors Cut version that the unicorn dream sequence showed up. That's ten years after the movie came out.

    And Rick Deckard being a replicant wrecks the film. In particular at the end when Roy Batty dies.
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    "She's a replicant, isn't she? How can it not know what it is?"

    Irony, a difficult concept.
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    The world is empty now. Anyone who could leave has left for the offworld colonies. If you're "special" i.e. DNA damaged, you're not eligible to emigrate. In the book universe, the story takes place after World War Terminus and the world has already emptied out. Nuclear Fallout continues to plague random locations (the weather reports are mostly fallout reports). In the movie universe, things are very crowded in 2019 (at least in LA). By 2049 everyone is gone it seems (or I missed the crowded street scenes). Maybe WWT takes place between 2019 and 2049 in the movie universe.

    The bees are artificial or a hallucination. As ethereal as seeing a unicorn. It's also evocative of Rachel's "I would kill it," in response to the Voigt Kampff scenario: suddenly you realize there's a wasp crawling on your arm.

    Why were Spinners replaced by Peugeots? In the end it's all at the director's discretion. He's French and doesn't need to explain anything. Many of the scenes were designed to provoke an emotional response and don't have a good explanation. Or they're just product placement.
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    I read the source material Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? back in the 90s. 20 years has done a number on my memory. Before starting to re-read it this week, I remembered it as not having much to do with the 1982 movie. It has everything to do with it.

    To anyone not having seen this year's sequel. Do yourself a favor and watch the first one. The director's cut, not the theatrical release (the one with the sappy voice overs, sans unicorns). Blade Runner: 2049 is not as viable as a stand-alone movie.

    Here's part of the scene where Deckard is about to retire Zhora, the snake charmer. In the book she's a German opera singer, Miss Luft, rehearsing Mozart's The Magic Flute (which by itself is highly symbolic).

    "Do you think I'm an android? Is that it?" Her voice had faded almost to extinction. "I'm not an android!" Her elongated lashes shuddered involuntarily; he saw her trying to appear calm. "Do you have information that there's an android in the cast? I'd be glad to help you, and if I were an android would I be glad to help you?"

    "An android," he said, "doesn't care what happens to another android. That's one of the indications we look for."

    "Then," Miss Luft said, "you must be an android."

    That stopped him; he stared at her.

    "Because," she continued, "your job is to kill them, isn't it? You're what they call-" She tried to remember.

    "A bounty hunter," Rick said. "But I'm not an android."

    "This test you want to give me." Her voice, now, had begun to return. "Have you taken it?"

    "Yes." He nodded. "A long, long time ago: when I first started with the department."

    "Maybe that's a false memory. Don't androids sometimes go around with false memories?"*​

    It's gets weird after this, where she calls the police, they don't know Deckard or Bryant. The cops come and take them to their HQ.


    *Dick, Philip. Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep. Ballantine Books: Del Rey, 1968. Print.
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    Interesting:

    I'm one of the few that thinks Blade Runner 2049 is vastly superior to the original (the original is still great though!) and would entirely welcome a new story in the world from 2049, that would just be so great. Villeneuve did an excellent job
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    Count me as one who thinks the original is better, but 2049 was epic in it's own right. I may need to get some Chinese food and watch it(49) again tomorrow night. Great stuff.
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    Honest Trailer.