Have you Adopted a Soldier yet?

This much is true.

That's what governments do.

Whose liberty would be forfeit?

And what of it?

I don't take orders well, I don't want to live the way soldiers have to live, I'm not one for camraderie, and most of all, I don't want to have to kill anyone.

Those who choose not to serve. Without the right to vote, those who can could essentially marginalize and disenfranchise you into a sub-class.

Chances are there would be a lot less war if those actually fighting them had more say in the government.

And you look to be pushing 250 with more chins than a Taiwan white pages.

Don't forget that.

technically speaking, they DO have a say, as much as anyone else.

Fat jokes? Meh. I'm outside doing physical labor every single day.

I know I need to lose weight. I am losing weight. It isn't something I'm ashamed of, just something I have to improve about myself.

So do the 2 years of social service instead.

Trying to get down to a size 8?

2) There is a revolving door policy in Texatopia, for every person who wants out, we let someone else in. You don't have to stay, move to France if they'll have you. Earn your right to vote or don't vote, period.

3) Why couldn't you still do work toward your degree during social service? Plenty of people go to college while working full time. And BTW, it's not just military or building roads, it's everything government. And if you don't like it, you don't have to serve. Or if you want to go to college first, you can, and still put in your 1.5-2 years then, in a job that is more suited to your skills. Like I said before, there would be both testing and the needs of the government that would determine what your particular service or job would be.

He has experience as a comfort woman.

Perhaps you should consider a push mower instead of the riding one?

Heh. Too bad we don't mow anyone's lawn anymore. Strictly commercial landscape installation now.

So much for that plan, you may have to go for a jog.

I do take walks every night.

Used to be with my dog, but she can hardly move now

And I'm pleased to say that I have shed quite a few pounds this past month.

As for what my company does, just as an aside, I did find one pic of a project we worked on a few years back:

The Espirito Santo plaza on Brickell Avenue in Miami.


Ok. Ending shameless plug of my company now.

It was this. It made it read like you didn't think it existed.

1) Step it up to jogging(it may be pronounced "yogging"--I believe the J is silent.)
2)You guys planted all those palm trees?

Ah, well that wasn't my intention.

Not ALL, most aren't on the property, but all the ones right next to the building. MOST of what we did, though, was install the irrigation system throughout the site. It's how I ended up with a nasty scar on my hand after I accidentally chiseled my thumb.

Jesus Fucking Christ.

My grandmother walks for exercise.

I carry grudges.

And? It's good cardiovascular. I do plenty of heavy lifting and shit like that in the day. At night, I just like a nice, pleasant walk.

Ya, if you're 70.

Well, it's still good cardiovascular. But surely not the best one can do, unless you're 70.

Fixed it for ya.

^ Fair enough

For me, the best is in the winter when you can do a run or a full jog when the temperature is about -10 or -20 F .

Eh, I'm happy with walking. It's relaxing.

Eh, sorry man, but I'm going to have to disagree here for a couple of reasons.

1) The cost of training a soldier is something along the lines of 70K. A year and a half just isn't enough return on investment IMO.

2) Military service should longer than the civil service b/c it shouldn't be the easy route. An unmotivated ditchdigger isn't nearly as much a problem as an unmotivated fireguard. As much as I'm fucking sick and tired of 'you all volunteered for this' it is true. So suck it up and drive on.

So in otherwords I basically think we should stick with 3 years for military service, and two for civil. This would also allow for those who chose to go military to get all the benefits current enlistees get. (G.I. Bill, VA, etc) that wouldn't be offered to those who took the civil service route.