Heard an interesting religious claim the other day.

There's much more to this convo, but I'll just leave this little nugget of gold for now.

*in the middle of a forced theological debate with my mother on her birthday (don't look at me, she started it)*

Mom: "Christians are the most ridiculed group of people on this planet!"
Me: "Boy, don't let the Jews hear you say that."

Cool story bro.

Nah, the adherents of that gutter religion called islam are deservedly the most ridiculed.

Oh look... soundbite.

Here's another interesting religious claim...

"My mom forced me into a religious conversation.".

Interesting, because atheists, who always claim to have such liberated minds, always seem to feel victimized if they aren't the ones challenging belief but rather having theirs' challenged.

Oh look....soundbite.

Look, I can understand that his mom might have forced him into a conversation. Friends an family do that sometimes.

I just fail to see any legitimate point to the story, other than him trying to say "Hey, my mom is stupid!"

Why he would do that, I don't know.

I think she has a point in that ridiculing Christians seems to be considered "acceptable" these days.

For example, more people take exception to "kikey Mikey" being thrown around than apostle being harangued and insulted over his beliefs.

I know that's partially apostle's own behavior, but all things being equal, it seems harassing him about his religion is less likely to result in a negative reaction than harassing Mike over his.

Poor examples.

First off, Apostle isn't mocked b/c he is Christian, he is mocked b/c he is a supreme fucko. Async who is an actual Christian and in no way tries to hide it does NOT get mocked for his beliefs (although he does get trolled occassionaly, even then most people defend him, even atheists).

Secondly, Jews are special. No really, it is at the same time an ethnic group, a religion, and a nationality. A person can fit into all groups, two of them or only one and still be Jewish. In fact it hit me a couple months ago that I am not friends with a single religious Jew. All are atheists and aren't even very culturally Jewish, every one of them eats pork like it's going out of style.

Anyway, tangent aside, I have yet to see Mike refer to being religiously Jewish. Nor has he mentioned having dual Israeli citizenship, so nationality is out. That leaves only the ethnic definition. Which puts Apostle/Sokar/et al in the Tasvir/Maud Dib camp of tasteless trolling.

Pictures of mom, please.

Wait, was mom naked during this convo?

"Your deity is an imaginary friend", is equivalent to "kike"?

Really?

This is not the first time you've drawn equivalence with magical beings, and flesh and blood people....

Please explain to me why religious beliefs should be treated differently than political beliefs, and then I might take your point seriously. But until then the only thing you're making a good case for is the tendency of religious people to feel entitled to having beliefs that are beyond reproach.

I started a whole thread on this, and got a big bucket of nothing.

Well, once one sifted out the "...well...you're just a bastard! Because...you just are! ".

Probably my favorite response of all.

"Why did this dude post a religious-related message in a forum described as 'discussion of sensitive issues, philosophy, politics, religion...'?"

Wasn't aware things on the internet needed a "point" nowadays. Twitter and Instagram were throwing me off.

That's.....not a religious claim at all.

And yes, she brought it up. It happens. I shared it because saying such tripe about being the most ridiculed is, coincidentally enough, ridiculous.

I can see how you would be thrown off, treating this place like twitter or instagram.

I'll post pics of my dinner later.

Not the stupidest post you've ever posted...maybe your meds are working...but close.

It's always acceptable to ridicule any group. That Christians may have gotten a pass is unacceptable.

This is more be tolerant of the intolerant bullshit. Apostle's beliefs are abhorrent bastardizations of Christianity and deserve to be mocked.

Yes...partially.

Apples v. Oranges. Actormike doesn't preach and call you a sinner for not hating gay people. Insulting Actormike's religion on this board has nothing to do with his beliefs - people are just trying to piss him off. Apostle, on the other hand, actively uses Christianity to justify how horrible a person he is.

For me, it's all apostle's own behavior. If you throw a rock at me, I'm considering you a combatant, even if you're wearing your good clothes. apostle throws his rocks at everyone, and so is rightly harangued for his stupidity.

If I levy an insult toward apostle, it is for his behavior. I don't blanket everyone else with the same insult. I still hold the same belief that there are far more good people than bad, and that many of those good people are religious. Statistically, that's the way it's going to be. I'm not a fan of blanket generalizations, because it lets you be ignorant while feeling good about it.

It's really just that we have no particularly compelling reason to care about your mother.

Unless she's hot.

And of questionable virtue.

And you show us pics of her.

Naughty pics of her.

And then we'll have a reason to care. Hop to it.

So

Personally I reserve the right to ridicule everyone who tries to persuade me into believing fairy tales. Yes, I'm ridiculing politicians too. Not my boss, but in general.

got a better term for something anti religion then? I mean, an anti war claim is still one about war.

but, glad to see you keep an open mind and feel so much tolerance for values that differ from yours.

See there? Even gul agrees with me? And you know what? Gul hates my guts. I mean that literally. Ask him. If gul was to see my lower intestine, he'd fly into a rage and start punching my lower intestine. Or my spleen. Maybe especially my spleen. And my liver? Fffffffssshhhhhh, dude, forget it. If gul was to set eyes on my liver... mmmmmm, maaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnn... there'd be fuckin' hell to pay.

Y'unnastan'?

So, like, now you know. Now you fucking KNOW. When gul agrees with me about the importance of you producing mama pics? That's some hardcore, you-better-jump-right-the-fuck-up-and-get-ON-that-shit kind of shit.

You dig?

I don't see what making a quip about Jews being persecuted more than Christians has to do with an open mind. But hey, whatever works out your trolling muscle.

Persecuted != ridiculed.

Western society has long accepted and encouraged ridicule towards the powerful, as Carneval since medieval times and as a fixture of mainstream public discourse since roughly 200 years. It has also had Christians in power almost exclusively. So the claim is most probably true.

Those who do not learn from history, etc., etc...

Oh look, switch the parameters to the second part of the OP and then cry "troll".



Dicky-teach your little apprentice here a thing or two?