His name was Hunter Biden

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  1. Steal Your Face

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    https://thehill.com/homenews/401804...be-into-link-to-chinese-spy-taking-no-action/
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    Congratulations, you've demonstrated that she tried.

    Now do you have any evidence of him giving up anything, or, again, just insinuations?
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    1) I'll grant you that I personally would prefer a President who wasn't older than the country of Israel and between Turtle Mitch and Diane Feinstein, we do have a huge problem about age and cognitive ability.

    Every single one of those apply to Trump too.

    Given that, I'll go for the geriatric who *isn't* promising to disappear his enemies upon reelection.

    2) I won't even pretend to entertain the idea that you give two shit about Biden's racism, considering your idea of " funny" is swastika avatars and cheering on goons who post lynching photos in protest over board policy. :dayton:

    I will say that you'd be hard pressed to find anyone on either side of the political aisle, black or white, who didn't support the 1994 crime bill and there are far, far many more people that just him to take over those particular coals.

    3) that shit on deportation is just straight up lies. Biden wasn't even big on immigration as VP either. Why do you think Sanders won California in the fucking primaries in 2020? @Amaris has kept better receipts on that that I could but just because he's not openly racist about it doesn't mean he ain't doing much of the same shit Trump was.

    4) no the fuck he didn't pay social media to ban people, you nitwit. All the major places anyone g to skew right leaning. Hell, Elon Musk was pretty adamant about "free speech" to he point that he can't even get advertisers anymore

    5)at no point were ANY national mask mandates provided by Trump OR Biden. Even California conservatives bulled Newsom into walking back masking and other restrictions by June 2020. They aren't even enforcing masking in goddamn San Francisco anymore and they need the first city to shut down entirely.

    I'm sure there's other nutty points but fuck it, I got Nashville hot chicken to cook today and I ain't reading the rest of that cuz you and I both know you'll just blow it off anyway.
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    How would one bless vodka? Do the Russian Orthodox churches do that?:bong:
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    There were in fact federal mask mandates.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_13991

    He did in fact use federal agencies to get social media companies to ban people. So much so that a federal judge imposed an injunction on the Administration.
    https://www.reuters.com/legal/judge...-social-media-companies-newspaper-2023-07-04/

    There absolutely is a surge in immigration.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/im...7500-migrants-stopped-sunday-alone-rcna105616
    The Mayor of NY is most certainly frusterated with the administration's immigration policy.
    https://thehill.com/latino/4238057-...white-house-is-wrong-on-migrant-asylum-issue/

    As for my supposed racism, okay, but I'm not the one that said you ain't black if you don't vote for me. Don't you find that offensive? Trump gained black voters in 2016 and 2020 and it's looking like Biden is increasingly losing black votes.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...voters-donald-trump-gains-ground/71889796007/
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    "Zero evidence."
    There's plenty of evidence, but you just ignore it.
    https://nypost.com/2023/08/14/white...joe-in-hunters-biz-as-gop-hunts-bank-records/
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    You realize that the post is practically a tabloid, don’t you?
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    They're the ones who originally broke the Hunter Biden laptop story when the rest of the media was saying it was likely Russian disinformation.
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    And yet the story has come into question, hasn’t it? The repairman said the person identified themself as Hunter, but was not confirmed. The laptop showed signs of being tampered with, and the repairman even said there was information on it that wasn’t there when he examined it. And how convenient that it ended up in Rudy’s hands…
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    Again, most of what you posted is not evidence of Joe Biden's wrongdoing.

    The closest any of it gets is the notion that Joe Biden was slated to get 10 percent of something, and that someone paid him a $10 million bribe.

    But to quote Jerry Macguire: Show me the money!

    Where is the actual evidence of the $10 million being paid by the person who claims to have done so to anyone? Where is the evidence of Joe Biden receiving this money? Where is the evidence that anyone wanted this prosecutor gone so badly that anyone would pay $10 million dollars to try to get rid of him? And as we discussed, the West generally wanted him gone. So were the bribers paying all the other officials too?

    If Joe Biden was "penciled in" to get 10 percent of some deal, where is the concrete proof that a) he in fact did and b) the profit from the deal was in some way an illegal or unethical quid pro quo? Given that according to your source, the e-mail talking about this pencilling in happened in May 2017, when he was out of power, you'll forgive me from taking much stock in the notion that this is a smoking gun.

    But here's the thing: regardless of what I might think about the state of the evidence, the fact remains that the Republicans haven't marshalled enough of this supposed abundant evidence to get criminal charges on Joe Biden, and several are openly admitting that they don't yet have the goods to indict him or impeach him yet, after three years of investigation. Do you concede that would make them beyond incompetent if there actually exists evidence of Joe Biden's guilt that random pod-cast listeners/you tube watchers/etc. have found out about, but they haven't been able to string it together to prove to even people in their own ranks that Joe Biden has done anything wrong?
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    Also, assuming it is Hunter's laptop and assuming all the files on it are genuine and assuming there's no shenanigans in how it got into the possession of Giuliani/Republicans' hands, again, how inept do they have to be as investigators that they didn't use it to a) preserve al the incriminating evidence that was on there and b) use it to uncover more leads to incriminating evidence if it existed.

    If there were truly incriminating evidence on there, there would be no need to whine about how the mainstream media was suppressing the story, because the various investigative bodies would be able to parlay that evidence into an indictment or something more substantial than the whisper campaign that they've been doing.

    I don't know how someone can escape the conclusion that there really are only two possibilities:
    1. Joe Biden is innocent of any actual ethical or legal wrongdoing with Hunter, and the Republicans basically know this but are wanting to throw mud on him to damage him politically with a bad-faith slipshod investigation OR
    2. Joe Biden is guilty of ethical and legal wrongdoing re: Hunter, but the Republicans are completely incompetent as investigators that they have not been able to come up with substantial proof of this guilt despite having access to Hunter's lap top, plenty of financial records from Hunter and Joe, the ability to subpoena records and documents, having taken testimony from several people on this subject, and having spent three years formally investigating the subject, along with informal investigations as part of the Trump campaign.

    The notion that they would not take Hunter Biden's testimony in an open proceeding (as well as most of the Republicans' own words) speaks to it being possibility number one.
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    And every time there’s been an open hearing lately, it ends up being embarrassing for the Fauxpublicans…
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    Did 51 intelligence agents tell you that?
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    It shows that Joe did talk with his son about business dealings.
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    But talking doesn’t indicate that someone benefitted, does it?
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    Not necessarily, but Joe Biden said he never talked to his son about his business dealings. Why do they keep walking that back?
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    Why does Donald keep walking back everything he claimed he didn’t do?
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    Reminder that your party’s star witness testified to the exact opposite:

    Hunter Biden "was selling the illusion of access to his father," Archer told the panel, according to Goldman -- but never directly involved his father in any of their business dealings.

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/dev...business-partner-testifies/story?id=101866758
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    Of course. Because you totally aren’t in the tank for Trump. Why would someone even think that?
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    Ooh! Ooh! I think that. Because it's true. Bigly.
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    First of all, a statement like "I never talk with my son about his business" can mean (among other things)
    a) I literally never have talked with my son about his business, not even once in any way, shape or form
    b) I do not typically talk with my son about his business, but there have been a few exceptions
    c) I never talk with my son about his business in any substantial way

    I would find it hard to believe that Joe has literally never spoken to Hunter about any of Hunter's businesses over the (let's say) 25ish years that Hunter has working. Even people who aren't that close are going to have small talk with their relatives about "How's the job/business?" from time to time. I would also find it hard to believe that Joe meant to convey that he has literally never talked to Hunter about his business.

    But even assuming for argument's sake that Joe meant a) and it's now been conclusively shown that he has in fact had at least superficial involvement in Hunter's business by appearing by telephone briefly at meetings and exchanging pleasantries and he's shown up to receptions that Hunter's business has held, that proves that Joe has lied on that point.

    It does not show corrupt or illegal behavior on Joe's part.
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    This is why it is a distraction. What was done was unethical, and there may be things there that should be illegal. The reason the legislature can do these investigations is not to convict anyone as they can't. It is so they can draft legislation that would make some of these things illegal. Instead they are pretending this is a trial, which is not true because even if congress found illegality they cannot convict hunter of a crime.

    Their distraction is that they are having a trial in congress when none of this is about the charges against Hunter. They want to pretend they can charge hunter and Biden, but none of this will actually charge them with squat. This is why this is a distraction, and why the january 6th congress bullshit was also a distraction.

    Unless congress is going to make some legislation to make some of the things Hunter and Biden did illegal, then there is no purpose in even having these hearings and investigations. It is all a political stunt and distraction to pretend they are sdoing something when everything they do is nothing.

    They do so much work to avoid doing work it is a scam and a huge waste of resources.
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    The House is having some kind of Hunter hearing right now, to which he showed up and then walked out, and the Republicans are getting demolished by the Democrats, particularly Jared Moskowitz who held this up during a pause in the proceedings. :rotfl:

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    My girl Jasmin Crockett is on fire, too. :wub:

    https://x.com/Acyn/status/1745116946561999121?s=20
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