I am sorry, to the women in the room. This is from the white men.

Discussion in 'The Red Room' started by Tererune, Oct 9, 2018.

  1. spot261

    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    Ok @Dinner, you asked, I'll oblife, as I'm nice like that.

    Firstly please throw your links in the bin, they refer to rape and sexual offences collectively, not to mention in countries with concurrently large black populations, low socioeconomic conditions, poor law enforcement and typically warzones, none of which was the question being discussed.

    We were talking specifically about child sex offending in the US and Europe.

    From wikipedia (of all places) regarding the demographics of offenders:

    So men. Not women, not trans women, not trans men.

    Regarding comorbidity:

    In fact of all the possible comorbid demographic and personality factors which legitimately could come from running the statistics on the DSM, not one whiff of being transgender as a factor.

    So offenders tend to be straight men, not women, not transgender people of any ilk.

    But more interestingly, from your own link (which ironically I wasn't going to bother using myself but actually helps a lot:

    So, even though the prison populations in the US show a strong bias towards black populations, whites are nonetheless represented at their population levels. In other words most convicted sex offenders are white even in a system which is institutionally racist.

    So, proportionately we're not only looking at straight men, we are looking at ciswhite straight men
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  2. Dinner

    Dinner 2012 & 2014 Master Prognosticator

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    Now, wrt the cis part... 1/3rd of all sex offenders are gay yet homosexuals only make up 4.5% of the US population which means homosexuals are radically more likely to be sex offenders than straight people of any group. So that is another strike against Spot’s stupid claim.

    Facts beat down yet another false talking point. black male homosexuals have the highest rate of being sex offenders followed by Hispanic male homosexuals. The only group with lower rates of being a sex offender than cis white males as cis East Asian males (cis South Asian males are right up there with Hispanics as far as sex offender rates go but still below blacks).
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    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    whoa Spot - wearing a dress is not a crime? Have you seen this guy's legs? :shock:

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    side-note every year here at Fort Gordon they have a "pink tutu" run raising money for breast cancer. Quite an interesting sight!
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  4. Ten Lubak

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    @Tererun isn’t trans and anyone that thinks he is is an idiot
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  5. spot261

    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    So you're ignoring the data in your own link, ignoring the fact we aren't talking about sex crimes in general and inventing a link between gender and sexuality?
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  6. Dinner

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    Ok, we have found another person who does not understand what a rate is. Rates are the only thing that matters as they are the only way to compare how common something is between populations.

    You are just wrong and you know you are wrong which is why you are now changing your argument. Thus why you are desperately trying to avoid rates which is all that matters when discussing likelihood’s.
  7. spot261

    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    Yes, well done.

    From your own link black people are disproportionately represented per capita in jail, yet that trend doesn't hold for sexual offences where the conviction numbers roughly match the population norms.

    You've literally provided a link which supports the opposing case.

    You really aren't quick on the uptake are you?

    Or even, y'know, average?
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  8. Dinner

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    Spot must just hate cold hard facts like crime rates as it is an objective way to answer questions like who is most likely to eventually be convicted of a crime. Take murder, black males make up about 6.5% of the population but commit almost half of all murders. Yes, there are more white people convicted of murder in absolute terms but the rate tells us black males, especially young black males, are the most likely to commit murder because their rate is sky high compared to every other group.

    A white male, even a young white male, is indeed far less likely to commit murder as an individual.
  9. spot261

    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    So you still have nothing on pedophilia except a link which supports my case?
  10. spot261

    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    I see, "fantasy" for drawing attention to the actual content of the data you provided?
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    No, it says the group of sexual offenders is more proportional compared to other crimes such as drugs but that blacks especially black males are still over represented.

    You are just unable to admit you are wrong. You made an ignorant claim and you got called on it and stomped by facts. Live with it.
  12. spot261

    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    Read the quote again, I've provided it helpfully but will reiterate it, y'know, because it would be helpful for you to read the links you posted:

    Seeing it yet?

    Sinking in to that thick skull of yours?

    In a system your link identifies as being racist against blacks, sexual predators are the one group in which whites are represented at the population norm.

    I'm sure most people here aren't struggling with what that means but let me spell it out even more clearly for the terminally dense amongst us.....

    White men are more likely to get away with crimes in general, yet we still dominate the convictions rates for sexual offences.
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  14. spot261

    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    So you have nothing, nothing at all to suggest there's any link whatsoever between being transgender and being a child sex offender?

    Nothing.
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  15. spot261

    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    Cut me some slack, I only met her last week, but if she says she is I have no reason to question it
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    This is a guy who claims to be a master troll across the internet and more than once has bragged about trolling someone to the point of them committing suicide. All his words, not mine
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  17. spot261

    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    If that's the case I'll be disappointed in the extreme, but I think you of all people here know that won't mean I drop my case which is about principles bigger than any one person...
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    You've given up doing drugs? Since when?
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    Yes, all true. But it goes against the "homosexuality is a good thing" policy.
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  20. Ten Lubak

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    Who’s asking you to drop your case?
  21. spot261

    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    "You've given up doing drugs? Since when?"

    Reminds me of a Mitch Hetberg bit:

    "I used to do drugs. I still do, but I used to, too!"

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