If A President Declares A "State of Emergency"

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  1. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    To Nova (and sadly to a pretty big percentage of the US population) Trump is indeed just that evil! :shep:I can't believe the left isn't begging for the UN to take us over for our own good!
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  2. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    If you put up anymore straw men we're gonna have to call you in as a fire hazard.
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  3. Tuttle

    Tuttle Listen kid, we're all in it together.

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    Nah, I think that's just a product they're selling. Some few are delusional or deranged, but if you got most drunk they'd probably admit they don't really think Trump will round up 10 million illegal aliens and deport them (like Rincewind predicted in Nova's 'meltdown' post), or implement policies to arrest LGBT and cart them off in boxcars - presumably to be exterminated in solar-panel heated showers (like Nova suggests).

    I recall the 1970s as a kid in school when students would make fun of the teacher they presumed was gay (could've just been a major wuss); it was kept secret (the "closet") and even then they didn't pretend they'd be rounded up if found out. Although presumably it would be enough to ruin a life, like Christians thrown to the lions, which is (1) actually pretty good sign of how far we've come and (2) reveals that the same kind of tactics are again popular in use today, where e.g. Kevin Hart was the latest sacrifice on the altar of Twitter twits-mob.
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  4. oldfella1962

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    I don't care for Kevin Hart's humor but he seems like a genuinely good person. Fuck the Oscar Award show producers right in the ass (not that there's anything wrong with that!)
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  5. Tererune

    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    The sky may stay up there, but certainly trump's approval rating, republican approval rating, the number of republican congressional representatives, the stock market, opinion of the US in foreign nations, and the number of Hispanic immigrants crossing the border are going down.
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    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    He finally came out with a decent apology that explained his changing thoughts. I would rate what he said along with my sister's opinion on the subject. It is great as long as it is not in her family to embarrass her. Given the bigots do not stick to the GLBT person and target the livelihood of allies and family members it is a legitimate concern.

    As for my opinion on the Johnny come lately snowflakes who pretended to be all offended about Hart when it was brought to their attention, thanks for the support but where were you when it showed up in his comedy routines and you laughed along at it? If you are going to force him to apologize and explain his change of mind perhaps they should tell u all why they were silent for all this time.
  7. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    possible we see what you choose to be blind to
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  8. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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  9. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    Or possible I am sane
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  10. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Is he THAT evil?
    Maybe, maybe not.
    But he sure as fuck isn't good.

    If your brother in law is a heroin junkie that snatches purses, and burgles trailer parks for his habit, do you fiddle-fuck around with "yeah, but he probably wouldn't actually kill his wife", or do you call the cops?

    Trump has done enough awful shit already for me to keep a wary eye on the fucker.
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    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    interesting....well keep a wary eye on him when he makes his acceptance speech in 2020 if he runs! :D
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  12. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    You can retire from the internet, @Dayton.
    Oldfella's got the whole partisan dingbat thing down.
    He's all trained up.
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  13. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    What flavor of Kool-Aid do you prefer? I'm guessing orange.

    On a more serious note, when you allow yourself a break from smearing "libruls," perhaps you'll tell the class why Der Drumpfenfuhrer makes your nethers tingle.

    Is it just because, like @Tuttle, you'll accept anything, no matter how vile, that you believe "disses libruls," or are you
    [​IMG]

    Or are you just playing the "I GOT MINE AND FUCK THE REST OF YEZ?"

    :bailey:
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  14. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    I'm content to come back to this question in a couple of years and see whether "this is serious shit!" or "everything is fine!" turns out to have been the more accurate assessment
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  15. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    Despite trending blue, the GOP still has a razor thin majority in the VA legislature.

    And used it in predictable fashion.
    http://bluevirginia.us/2019/01/ag-m...ees-decision-to-rerefer-the-paramilitary-bill
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    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    "Or are you just playing the "I GOT MINE AND FUCK THE REST OF YEZ?"" - Garamet
    Or maybe I'm playing the "I got mine now let's help those who want to get theirs without fucking over me and others who have already got theirs" game.
    Probably too advanced for you anyway.
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    Literally everyone on this planet, including babies shitting in their diapers, know what basic self-interest is. You're not sharing any amazing new concept.
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  18. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    which has ZERO to do with what Garamet said!
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    Incorrect. She's taking the concept of basic self-interest to its more extreme conclusion. It's a literary device, and debate tactic.

    How can you not know this? This is why it seems so pointless to discuss things with you. You make the insinuation that someone is stupid or lacking in comprehension, but you're the fucking poster child for lacking in awareness.
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    Sounds like DACA.
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  21. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    He thinks it's pie.
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  22. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    More on this comment (and oldfella's previous similar question)

    The policy brief, “Trump Administration continued to advance discriminatory policies and practices against LGBT people and people living with HIV in 2018” can be read at fenwayhealth.org/trumpyear2.

    “In just two years, we have witnessed the rollback of rights and protections that took decades to win. It’s difficult, if not impossible, to estimate the full extent of harm now taking place,” said Sean Cahill, PhD, Director of Health Policy Research at The Fenway Institute. “It is undeniable that LGBT people and people living with HIV are now much more vulnerable to discrimination in health care, social services, employment, education, and access to basic government services.”

    Examples of second-year actions taken by the Trump Administration that undermine the health and well-being of LGBT people and people living with HIV include:

    • Dismissing Peace Corps volunteers who tested positive for HIV, and refusing to provide pre-exposure prophylaxis for HIV prevention (PrEP) to at-risk volunteers;
    • Placing transgender inmates of the Federal Bureau of Prisons, especially transgender women, at much higher risk of rape by incarcerating them according to their biological sex at birth instead of their gender identity;
    • Ending the practice of issuing G-4 visas to same-sex domestic partners of foreign diplomats or employees of international organizations—such as the World Bank or the United Nations—who are working and living in the United States;
    • Issuing a proposed rule from the Department of Health and Human Services that could allow health care providers to refuse to care for patients who conflict with their “religious belief or moral conviction” or force them “to act contrary to one’s belief”;
    • Continuing to enforce and endorse religious liberty policies that could increase discrimination against LGBT people with the creation of a Religious Liberty Task Force led by a former anti-LGBT activist;
    • Sending Secretary of State Mike Pompeo to attend the inauguration of Brazil’s new president Jair Bolsonaro, who campaigned on a racist, misogynist, and homophobic platform and signed an executive order just hours after being sworn into office prohibiting the country’s human rights ministry from hearing any concerns from Brazil’s LGBT community;
    • Taking aggressive steps to prevent transgender people from serving in the military;
    • Reportedly drafting a memo that sought to define sex as binary, fixed, and unalterable under Title IX, denying the existence of transgender and intersex people;
    • Eliminating references to inclusion and protection from discriminatory housing practices in the Department of Housing and Urban Development’s mission statement;
    • Filing a brief with the U.S. Supreme Court arguing that gender identity is outside of the scope of Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which prohibits discrimination based on “race, color, religion, sex and national origin”;
    • Ending the U.S. Department of Education’s practice of hearing complaints from transgender students regarding their access to school facilities such as bathrooms and locker rooms that correspond to their gender identity;
    • Appointing Brett Kavanaugh, who repeatedly refused to answer questions from the Senate Judiciary Committee about whether he believed that Obergefell v. Hodges, which struck down state anti-gay marriage laws, was correctly decided by the U.S. Supreme Court;
    • Appointing Kyle Duncan to the 5th U.S. Court of Appeals based in Louisiana. During the Obergefell case, Duncan filed a brief with the U.S. Supreme Court claiming that a decision affirming marriage equality for same-sex couples would “damage” the political and social institutions of the country;
    • Proposing to remove sexual orientation and gender identity questions from the National Crime Victimization Survey for 16- and 17-year-old respondents.
    Since 1971, Fenway Health has been working to make life healthier for the people in our neighborhood, the LGBT community, people living with HIV/AIDS and the broader population. The Fenway Institute at Fenway Health is an interdisciplinary center for research, training, education and policy development focusing on national and international health issues.

    Today, The Fenway Institute of Fenway Health released a policy brief demonstrating that in his second year in office, President Donald Trump continued to promote discrimination against LGBT people and people living with HIV. In some cases, these policies built upon anti-LGBT measures begun in 2017. In other cases, the Trump Administration found new ways to negatively impact U.S. citizens and federal contractors as well as the family members of LGBT foreign diplomats. His administration also engaged in practices that will increase anti-LGBT stigma and HIV stigma around the world.

    “In just two years, we have witnessed the rollback of rights and protections that took decades to win. It’s difficult, if not impossible, to estimate the full extent of harm now taking place,” said Sean Cahill, PhD, Director of Health Policy Research at The Fenway Institute. “It is undeniable that LGBT people and people living with HIV are now much more vulnerable to discrimination in health care, social services, employment, education, and access to basic government services.”

    Examples of second-year actions taken by the Trump Administration that undermine the health and well-being of LGBT people and people living with HIV include:

    • Dismissing Peace Corps volunteers who tested positive for HIV, and refusing to provide pre-exposure prophylaxis for HIV prevention (PrEP) to at-risk volunteers;
    • Placing transgender inmates of the Federal Bureau of Prisons, especially transgender women, at much higher risk of rape by incarcerating them according to their biological sex at birth instead of their gender identity;
    • Ending the practice of issuing G-4 visas to same-sex domestic partners of foreign diplomats or employees of international organizations—such as the World Bank or the United Nations—who are working and living in the United States;
    • Issuing a proposed rule from the Department of Health and Human Services that could allow health care providers to refuse to care for patients who conflict with their “religious belief or moral conviction” or force them “to act contrary to one’s belief”;
    • Continuing to enforce and endorse religious liberty policies that could increase discrimination against LGBT people with the creation of a Religious Liberty Task Force led by a former anti-LGBT activist;
    • Sending Secretary of State Mike Pompeo to attend the inauguration of Brazil’s new president Jair Bolsonaro, who campaigned on a racist, misogynist, and homophobic platform and signed an executive order just hours after being sworn into office prohibiting the country’s human rights ministry from hearing any concerns from Brazil’s LGBT community;
    • Taking aggressive steps to prevent transgender people from serving in the military;
    • Reportedly drafting a memo that sought to define sex as binary, fixed, and unalterable under Title IX, denying the existence of transgender and intersex people;
    • Eliminating references to inclusion and protection from discriminatory housing practices in the Department of Housing and Urban Development’s mission statement;
    • Filing a brief with the U.S. Supreme Court arguing that gender identity is outside of the scope of Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which prohibits discrimination based on “race, color, religion, sex and national origin”;
    • Ending the U.S. Department of Education’s practice of hearing complaints from transgender students regarding their access to school facilities such as bathrooms and locker rooms that correspond to their gender identity;
    • Appointing Brett Kavanaugh, who repeatedly refused to answer questions from the Senate Judiciary Committee about whether he believed that Obergefell v. Hodges, which struck down state anti-gay marriage laws, was correctly decided by the U.S. Supreme Court;
    • Appointing Kyle Duncan to the 5th U.S. Court of Appeals based in Louisiana. During the Obergefell case, Duncan filed a brief with the U.S. Supreme Court claiming that a decision affirming marriage equality for same-sex couples would “damage” the political and social institutions of the country;
    • Proposing to remove sexual orientation and gender identity questions from the National Crime Victimization Survey for 16- and 17-year-old respondents.
    The policy brief, “Trump Administration continued to advance discriminatory policies and practices against LGBT people and people living with HIV in 2018can be read here.[/quote]
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    But @Nova, unless you can prove that you personally had your life destroyed beyond all recognition, while during the Obama administration every day was sunny and choirs of angels sang on your shoulder every hour of the day, it doesn't count!
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  24. spot261

    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    Indeed, it'll only be credible after they start gassing people.
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    For people like @oldfella1962, @Tuttle , @Paladin, and the rest of whiteforge they will just say that giving away free gassings is too librul and socialism/communism so we should start charging people's estates for the gas. There is no too much for them.
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    whiteforge? :lol: Can we "pass the hat" to buy Tererun a mirror? Otherwise she won't take our word for when we tell her she's......spoiler alert......WHITE! :shock:
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    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    Yes, but I am not a racist white like you.
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    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    I'm not racist.

    But I do insist on people paying for the gas they consume. :bergman:
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