Immigration and the Right-Wing

Discussion in 'The Red Room' started by Nightbird, Aug 1, 2010.

  1. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    Yep, the amazing thing is that 14th's example IS a false dilemma. The choices he posits - "you can either immigrate illegally or never immigrate" is the textbook example of what he claims others are doing.

    And of course that doesn't remove the ethical consideration of breaking the law of another country, or the fact that said country would have every right to deport you if it found you were breaking said law.

    When you combine it with the number of illegals that commit other offenses in order to avoid being caught (hello identity theft...)
  2. Clyde

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    You are clearly saying there is a benefit to a racist law. Namely the demise of Conservatism, and ironically, Caucasians. You called it a win-win situation.

    I stand by my comment. Though I'll admit I haven't a sock puppet.

    A bi-partisan Nazi sing-along? Okay, that's just weird. But it couldn't be any worse than "We Are The World 2.0" or anything by Celine Dion.


    Fair enough.

    Guess so, I was hoping you'd have a laugh.

    Perhaps, yet that hope has nothing to do with your claim that the founding fathers wanted a government for ALL the people.

    So this isn't a partisan complaint?

    No, you are the one who described the antithesis of what we ought to be. Don't stop now, tell us what we all should be.

    I agree, playground level taunts belong in any discussion of US political parties

    Seems a topic you never want to get into.

    Well not yet, but I am taking on-line classes. In a few short moths I'll have my literacy certificate.

    The back of stamps soon to be adhered to welfare request envelopes?





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    p.s. - Have a laugh!
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  3. skinofevil

    skinofevil Fresh Meat

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    By that logic, bank robbers are presented with a false dilemma, as well. Some people just don't qualify for a loan -- does that justify robbing banks?
  4. enlisted person

    enlisted person Black Swan

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    My ancestors learned to speak English, obeyed the law, and learned marketable skills, that puts them at the head of the pack at this time or any time in the past.
  5. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Yeah, if they know somebody, or they invent a new rocket fuel or something.
  6. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    Rush got a call today from a man, married to a Ukrainian woman who came here on a Visa and earned a PhD.

    ICE is requiring her to fulfill a home-return visit of at leasst 2 years.

    They were informed that if either of them were disabled, or if they had an excessive debt load, they would get an exemption because it would be a hardship for them to return.

    But givne that they are productive, educated, self-supporting individuals, both of them are OUT.

    Does imagration need to be reformed?

    Fuck yeah.

    Does it need to be reformed so we can get 50,000 janitors and fruit pickers for every one PhD?

    Fuck no.
  7. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    It justifies robbing banks and massive political movements favoring laws which force no-screening and no-interest for all loans at any amount. Oh, and immediate forgiveness of repayment.

    I'm starting the Federation for Requiring Excess for Everyone - with myself apointed chair for life with a comfortable six-figure salary as soon as contributions hit six figures.